Can someone please inform me which companies are doing all this pathology
testing so that I can buy  about 100,000 shares in them and sit back and
watch my income flow in........obviously I am at the wrong end of the
business - forget breeding dogs, forget the hours of feeding, cleaning,
washing, poo picking uping, talking with prospective puppy buyers,......  I
want to either
a) train as a vet in America and get togs tested everyday or
b) own a pathology company.

Come on folks -  step back a bit - are you seriously suggesting that on the
basis of a limited study in one country  on dogs whose pedigrees we don't
know and a few people who have posted to this list (which  includes only a
small percentage of the worlds breeders! <G>)  that we have a "serious"
problem?

Lets be sensible - Pat's description of the bitch dying is the very first
time I have ever heard of such a thing in 30 years being associated with the
breed.  Perhaps its another instance of "cultural" differences but here in
Australia, we sit here amazed at the amount of "testing" that you seem to
consider "normal".
I don't know anyone here who gets "Diagnostic Health Profiles" done on their
dogs!  Certainly not on a regular basis, and not even before surgery such as
spaying........now don't all jump on me. I think its great that people care
about their dogs and are willing to do all that testing but such practices
are not generally accepted here and after nearly 30 years in the breed and
having bred many litters, perhaps "many" more than most people who are
discussing this, I <Grin>  I have yet to see or breed a Cavalier which has
suffered in any way from a "platelet" problem. Yes, other problems, I don't
pretend my dogs are perfect, but never the subject of this discussion.

Here our dogs only go to the vet for regular vaccinations or if they are
sick. And as I don't do annual vaccinations, most of my dogs only get to the
vet for a swab before mating or some such thing.
I agree with Kim <<< The truly difficult decision; does this animal have
unique qualities that we want reproduced, takes a back seat to the health
clearance scramble.>>>>.
Now don't crucify me - I'm not advocating "don't test" - I'm simply trying
to say that from where I sit, some of the testing looks  more to the benefit
of the vets than the dogs.  And all the health certificates in the world
doesn't necessarily make a dog a better "Cavalier" - it may test perfect and
not even look like the breed and surely we must guard against that tendency
as well - and if some of the Cavaliers on web sites are anything to go by,
that IS a serious problem.

Kim writes <<<<<Genetics are tricky, and most dog breeders are school
teachers, nurses, AT&T operators, real estate agents, shop keepers...not
geneticists.  But it is expected of these breeders, by the purebred dog
buying public and their vets, that they have the knowledge, wisdom and skill
to produce happy, healthy and condition free dogs. With guarantees. At a
reasonable cost. With 150% of your money back (to the vet) if the dog has a
glitch.( Puppy  lemon laws ).  And we breeders are to obtain these skills,
this knowledge, that wisdom by breeding no more than two litters a year,
'cause everyone knows that you are a puppy mill if you do more than that!
>>>>>>.

Couldn't have said it any better!  Seems like we can't win either way and
sometimes I get so depressed about it all, but then I rub dry that squirming
slippery lump, hear that first cry and am totally hooked again.  And then I
get  notes like
<<<<<just a short note to let you know, Rafiki is doing fine and being
spoilt with lots of attention by the kids.  He travelled well back from
Sydney and only cried for about 5 minutes the first night.
He is a beautiful puppy and everybody loves him dearly
thankyou very much >>>>
and that makes it all worthwhile.
Jeanie

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