Wouldn't dream of "crucifying you" Jeanie. VBG I totally agree with you - I sit here in amazement reading what is the "norm" in the USA In nearly 25 years the only dogs of mine that have had a needle into their vein has been for the odd C section and one very ill bitch who had two screenings done. I think the vets over here make a very comfortable living but compared to those in the US.......
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEANIE MONTFORD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Thrombocytopenia > Can someone please inform me which companies are doing all this pathology > testing so that I can buy about 100,000 shares in them and sit back and > watch my income flow in........obviously I am at the wrong end of the > business - forget breeding dogs, forget the hours of feeding, cleaning, > washing, poo picking uping, talking with prospective puppy buyers,...... I > want to either > a) train as a vet in America and get togs tested everyday or > b) own a pathology company. > > Come on folks - step back a bit - are you seriously suggesting that on the > basis of a limited study in one country on dogs whose pedigrees we don't > know and a few people who have posted to this list (which includes only a > small percentage of the worlds breeders! <G>) that we have a "serious" > problem? > > Lets be sensible - Pat's description of the bitch dying is the very first > time I have ever heard of such a thing in 30 years being associated with the > breed. Perhaps its another instance of "cultural" differences but here in > Australia, we sit here amazed at the amount of "testing" that you seem to > consider "normal". > I don't know anyone here who gets "Diagnostic Health Profiles" done on their > dogs! Certainly not on a regular basis, and not even before surgery such as > spaying........now don't all jump on me. I think its great that people care > about their dogs and are willing to do all that testing but such practices > are not generally accepted here and after nearly 30 years in the breed and > having bred many litters, perhaps "many" more than most people who are > discussing this, I <Grin> I have yet to see or breed a Cavalier which has > suffered in any way from a "platelet" problem. Yes, other problems, I don't > pretend my dogs are perfect, but never the subject of this discussion. > > Here our dogs only go to the vet for regular vaccinations or if they are > sick. And as I don't do annual vaccinations, most of my dogs only get to the > vet for a swab before mating or some such thing. > I agree with Kim <<< The truly difficult decision; does this animal have > unique qualities that we want reproduced, takes a back seat to the health > clearance scramble.>>>>. > Now don't crucify me - I'm not advocating "don't test" - I'm simply trying > to say that from where I sit, some of the testing looks more to the benefit > of the vets than the dogs. And all the health certificates in the world > doesn't necessarily make a dog a better "Cavalier" - it may test perfect and > not even look like the breed and surely we must guard against that tendency > as well - and if some of the Cavaliers on web sites are anything to go by, > that IS a serious problem. > > Kim writes <<<<<Genetics are tricky, and most dog breeders are school > teachers, nurses, AT&T operators, real estate agents, shop keepers...not > geneticists. But it is expected of these breeders, by the purebred dog > buying public and their vets, that they have the knowledge, wisdom and skill > to produce happy, healthy and condition free dogs. With guarantees. At a > reasonable cost. With 150% of your money back (to the vet) if the dog has a > glitch.( Puppy lemon laws ). And we breeders are to obtain these skills, > this knowledge, that wisdom by breeding no more than two litters a year, > 'cause everyone knows that you are a puppy mill if you do more than that! > >>>>>>. > > Couldn't have said it any better! Seems like we can't win either way and > sometimes I get so depressed about it all, but then I rub dry that squirming > slippery lump, hear that first cry and am totally hooked again. And then I > get notes like > <<<<<just a short note to let you know, Rafiki is doing fine and being > spoilt with lots of attention by the kids. He travelled well back from > Sydney and only cried for about 5 minutes the first night. > He is a beautiful puppy and everybody loves him dearly > thankyou very much >>>> > and that makes it all worthwhile. > Jeanie > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. 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