I don't trust check valves on bilge pumps. Had one stick shut while on a cruise 
and learn CYA course off of the west coast of Vancouver Island. Once unstuck it 
worked fine again, but no idea why it stuck in the first place. Tricky to 
diagnose and unpleasant mucking around in the bilge but at least we were not 
far from a suitable anchorage. 

Steve Thomas
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard N. Bush via CnC-List 
  To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 5:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List automatic bilge pump problems


  Dennis, et al; for the bilge, is there an alternative to having a long 
discharge hose going to the stern? My pump works, and there has been a check 
valve put in by PO, but the long hose simply holds the water and the bilge pump 
can't do its job... thanks

  Richard

  Richard N. Bush
  1985 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 

  2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
  Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
  502-584-7255


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dennis C. via CnC-List <[email protected]>
  To: Tom Buscaglia <[email protected]>; CnClist <[email protected]>
  Sent: Mon, Oct 13, 2014 3:42 pm
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Spewing dripless


  If the set screws for the seal have a point, consider drilling a small detent 
in the shaft.  Install one set screw snugly to hold the flange in position, use 
a small drill to make the detent in the other hole.  Then install that set 
screw tightly with threadlocker.  Remove the first screw and make a detent for 
it.


  Dennis C.



  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    Went out over the week and had a great sail out, but some problems along 
the way.  But I have two maintanence issues.

    1.  Automatic Bilge Switch problems

    Alera is factory wired for a manual switch and then a hot lead to the bilge 
to use with the switch.  There was no auto switch on her when we got her a few 
years ago and since we keep her in the water all year, I needed to install one. 
 I like state of the art electronics so I went with the fully electronic Ultima 
Bilge Pump Switch.  Instead of mounting the switch to a 1/4" piece of plywood 
as instructed, I mounted it to the floor of the Bilge directly. which may be 
contributing to the bad cycling problem. The first one I installed started 
coming on and refusing to shut down until we cycled the manual switch.  This 
week end it was so bad I just pulled the fuse.  This weirdness had started when 
we were on our summer cruise.  So, I had a replacement switch on board. I 
replaced the switch, but may have screwed the wiring up.  It ran, but did not 
shut down.  So, as I have been doing before when it would not shut down, I 
cycled the manual switch and it shut down...but from the way it shut down, I 
suspect I fried something because the switch is not working at all now.  I 
checked the breaker panel and all's well there.  The in line fuse I installed 
with the switch is fine as well.    The manual switch is still 
functional...thank god!  (see 2 below!)


    2  Dripping dripless bearing

    In March when I had her bottom painted I had the yard (Seaview West in 
Seattle) install a brand new dripless bearing.  As a result of the bilge switch 
issue I decided to check the bilge on the 2 hour run back yesterday.  The bilge 
 was substantially filled.  I traced the ingress to the dripless bearing which 
was spewing water everywhere.  Not enough to outpace the electric bilge pump or 
require whalegusher intervention.  After we docked I checked and the rotor was 
loose enough for me to turn it on the shaft.  I am getting the documentation 
from the yard to make sure I get the right parts, but as I understand it, I 
should not just tighten the set screws, but replace them to be sure they  bite, 
then use a 2nd set crew and lock tight to lock them in place.

    Any thoughts on these electronic switches, alternatives, dripless bearing 
maintenance or anything else?

    Tom B

    Tom Buscaglia
    SV Alera
    1990 C&C 37+/40
    Vashon Island WA
    (206) 463-9200
    www.sv-alera.com


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