++1 On 15 Mar 2018 22:06, "Badru Ntege" <[email protected]> wrote:
> @Owen > > > in the world of subjectivity the content can be read in any way its a case > of the Glass half full or Half empty. However the fact the Chair shared > this content with a junior member of staff who reports to the CEO needs no > investigation as there's no way the content would exist to be shared here. > if i was to use your terminology at that part "we are actually separating > electrons and producing plasmas"..... > > > We all enjoy the world of "Paralysis through Analysis" There are some > clearly glaring wrongs in this situation where if the individuals on the > board really cared for the office they hold, should step aside until they > are exonerated. > > > The Gender issues from a staff member in the real world would mean that > the staff member is also suspended immediately until the issue is > investigated. > > > There is no room for that kind of language in AfrNIC period. > > We need to show zero tolerance on some issues while being fare. > > > Taking the current situation is not being fare to both parties. We have > an apparently aggrieved long serving member of staff and we have an > accused long serving senior member of staff. Until this is concluded > both should be treated equally. > > > For Board with all due respect i want to see more leadership. We have > nine board members and one of them should have taken the helm until the > investigations are concluded. That's good governance. > > > regards > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Owen DeLong [[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:54 AM > *To:* DANIEL NANGHAKA > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member > > This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case. > > You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in > smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses > and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating > electrons and producing plasmas. Only at such high temperatures (and with > an adequate supply of volatile gasses and oxygen) does one get fire. > > Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire. > > In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains > completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on > this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access. > > The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist > the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question. > There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying, > harassment, or any form of sexual impropriety. > > Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to > the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there. > > Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be > seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately. > > I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but I > will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation. > > Owen > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:06 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <[email protected]> wrote: > > There cannot be smoke without fire. > ᐧ > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote: > >> @Badru >> >> I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct. He >> issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be >> fair to expect them to respond immediately. Not sure if the Board has a >> Governance Committee within it. If so then the Chairperson of that >> Committee must issue a statement. >> >> There are clear procedures to follow in a well defined Corporate >> Governance environment. >> >> Regards >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a >> habit." ~ Aristotle >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:59 PM, Badru Ntege <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> @Ali >> >> This is not a minor issue and thus the reason we are all waiting for our >> elected Board. >> >> Please note elected board, CEO needs to be protected at this moment. >> >> If chair cannot comment then one o our other elected board should. That’s >> what accountability is about. >> >> Our organization must be protected above any individuals. >> >> Deep down I hope these are just allegations. >> >> Maybe governance committee should comment. >> >> But like others have mentioned we cannot wait. We need a clear way >> forward. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:38, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> @Badru >> >> Allan is correct in responding. The CEO takes the lead on such issues. >> The Board can also respond. However I’d like to caution all of us not cast >> aspersions right now. This is a serious matter that impugns on the >> organization. The Board is a representation of the community in the >> organization. They have a fiduciary responsibility to uphold the >> organization’s mandate and good name. >> >> At this point there is a huge risk that needs to really be managed well. >> >> Regards >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a >> habit." ~ Aristotle >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:21 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There is loss of trust in the board. This is the point where a critical >> review of AFRINIC mandate must be done. >> >> I think we need to clean up our house and not taking side clean our board. >> >> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018, Badru Ntege <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks >>> >>> I still think at this stage until board pronounced itself. Even CEO >>> should wait for board. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Alan Barrett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Dear Badru, >>> > >>> > My response was from me as CEO. >>> > >>> > Alan Barrett >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards >> Nanghaka Daniel K. >> Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead - >> ISOC Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018 >> Mobile +256 772 898298 <0772%20898298> (Uganda) >> Skype: daniel.nanghaka >> >> ----------------------------------------- * "Working for Africa" * >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> >> > > > -- > > Regards > Nanghaka Daniel K. > Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead - > ISOC Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018 > Mobile +256 772 898298 <+256%20772%20898298> (Uganda) > Skype: daniel.nanghaka > > ----------------------------------------- *"Working for Africa" * > ----------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss > >
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