On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 15:15, Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I do not think that we need projects to opt in to this. Badges are not 
> > aimed at projects. They are aimed at *people*.
>
> I'm not sure about this. Opt-in would be fine with me. I am worried about 
> gamification and a flood of PRs just to get badges. I think experimenting 
> with a handful of projects first would be ok.

Some people may not want badges; they should not be forced to have
them if they happen to meet the criteria.
I agree that opt-in is necessary.

Personally, I do not see the point of them.

> Gary
>
> On 2024/03/08 14:19:51 Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 3, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've thought a bit more and rather than starting with multiple badges, it
> > > probably makes more sense to start with a single badge to validate the
> > > idea. More can be proposed later if the first one is shown to be 
> > > effective.
> > >
> > > I'd propose a pilot badge called 'My First Open Source Contribution'
> > > awarded to anyone first's contribution to an Apache project that opts-in 
> > > to
> > > this badge. This recognition is straightforward to compute and would allow
> > > testing the program.
> >
> > I do not think that we need projects to opt in to this. Badges are not 
> > aimed at projects. They are aimed at *people*.
> >
> > I attended a talk last week at FOSS Backstage by Spot Callaway, who started 
> > the Fedora badges program. He said that the guiding principles are:
> >
> > * It should be fun, not legalistic.
> > * It should celebrate non-code accomplishments at least as much as code ones
> > * It should be easy - it should celebrate people automatically for stuff 
> > they’re already doing, rather than requiring them to go out of their way to 
> > request something, or jump through hoops somehow.
> > * We should be able to give badges manually, so that we can celebrate 
> > spontaneous things. The example given here is that at every conference 
> > where Fedora has a presence, there’s a QR code that, if you scan it, you 
> > get a badge. This allows people to get badges for everything from attending 
> > an event to landing a patch to sending email to a list to whatever we can 
> > think of.
> >
> > We should also have a simple way for people to propose new badges. Spot 
> > noted that the bottleneck with Fedora Badges has always been the design of 
> > the badge, not the lack of ideas.
> >
> > If you have an apache ID, you should be able to start earning badges. The 
> > first time you sign into the badge system, you should already have a badge, 
> > because you’ve signed the ICLA and have an apache ID, which is, itself, an 
> > accomplishment. The bar should be *SUPER* low on this.
>
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