Hi Patrick and Mentors Thank you for the input and guidance.
I have visited the following page that you mentioned, it looks there are some broken links. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list I paste two key sections here as a checklist for verification - Preparations - Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in the status file <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-status> Yes, it is up-to-date - Ensure suitable names <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> for project name and product names Approved, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-95 - Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> Release 8 versions and another one is WIP, involved 3 release managers - Demonstrate community readiness <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> Our contributors come from different companies and show the diversity and working on different components, all changes have been reviewed and trackable. we have an open, positive and inclusive atmosphere for the discussion - Ensure Mentors <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor> and IPMC <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> have no remaining issues <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> We have taken actions on issues from the discussion of graduation and fulfilled the Apache maturity assessment https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp-ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing - Decide upon destination <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject-or-top-level> Would be Top-Level Project - Prepare a resolution <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> *(top level candidates only)*. We will prepare our resolution according to https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board template https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/podling-tlp-resolution.txt and some samples https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CRUNCH/Graduation+Resolution https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Graduation+Resolution https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DATAFU/Graduation+Resolution https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/Graduation+Resolution The resolution should be proposed on the general incubator list <gene...@incubator.apache.org> before a *VOTE <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>* is started to allow feedback - Subproject acceptance *VOTE* <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject-acceptance> by destination Project *(*subproject* candidates only)* NA - Incubator PMC (IPMC) <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> : - For top level candidates, this is a recommendation *VOTE* <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc-top-level-recommendation> See below. - For subproject candidates, this is a graduation approval *VOTE* <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject-graduation> NA - Final hand-over <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-on-hand-over> - Consider post graduation tasks <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#project-first-steps> Graduation to a top level project requires: - a charter for your project https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#preparing_a_charter - a positive community graduation VOTE <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote - a positive IPMC recommendation VOTE <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> I have not found a template for this vote, but we can refer to other project's vote. Samples http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201709.mbox/%3CCAOqetn_+Oub4Gtr4=hOv=cLeMYB0i=xeewkoxibpg1v+cwa...@mail.gmail.com%3E - the acceptance of the resolution <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> by the Board so our next step would be to prepare a resolution, please help to verify it and guide us to complete those steps for graduation, Thanks! Very truly yours Gary. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > ps. > > > 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation > > keep in mind that this is the discussion thread and not a vote. Note (see > the link to grad doc I just provided) that you need to do a couple things > before the vote. > > Patrick > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I reviewed the status page earlier today and it looks up to date to me. > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html > > > > Similarly the "preparation" steps have been followed afaict: > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > graduation_check_list > > namesearch <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-95> > > etc... signed off a while ago > > > > Patrick > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > >> Let me summarize the discussion on graduation, Please refer to this > email > >> thread for details. > >> > >> 1) We have completed the website of Mnemonic that is required before > >> graduation > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > >> > >> 2) We have filled the Apache project maturity assessment for Mnemonic > and > >> fixed all gaps that would be helpful for graduation > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg > >> 7jLFp-ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > >> > >> 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation > >> > >> Please add yours if any before we are starting graduation votes, Thanks! > >> > >> Cheers > >> Gary > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs > >>> > >>> Looks no new issues crop up for a few days, and many contributors are > >>> positive and voted +1s for graduation, no negative from our community, > so I > >>> think this discussion could be settled down today and proceed to > collect > >>> votes from our community and IPMCs for graduation, please guide us if > any > >>> missing, misunderstanding and suggestion, Thanks! > >>> > >>> Very truly yours > >>> Gary > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs > >>>> > >>>> Looks we have resolved all the issues that you have pointed out for > >>>> graduation, meanwhile, there are more contributors +1 for our > project's > >>>> graduation so, could we start the community graduation vote and IPMC > >>>> graduation vote according to the following chart extracted from > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community ? > Thanks! > >>>> > >>>> [image: Inline image 1] > >>>> > >>>> Very truly yours > >>>> Gary > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Wen Tong <pures...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> +1 support for graduation. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Wei HE <hevei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > +1 support for graduation. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Wei HE > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> >> Yes, I also totally agree this and we will try our best for the > >>>>> readiness > >>>>> >> for the graduation. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> For the suggestion that John advised, we have prepared the > following > >>>>> >> comments for your review, Thanks! > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought > >>>>> me to > >>>>> >> your source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless > >>>>> you're on > >>>>> >> gitbox, the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> The github link has been removed from CD20 and using > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/develop/ as the link of > >>>>> website. we > >>>>> >> also create ticket MNEMONIC-355 (resolved) to remove Github link > >>>>> from > >>>>> >> navigator menu on website. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this > >>>>> item, from > >>>>> >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to > "centos:latest" > >>>>> which > >>>>> >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Yes, we will fix it through Apache Jira MNEMONIC-353(reviewed) and > >>>>> >> MNEMONIC-356(WIP) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from > >>>>> committers > >>>>> >> or from contributors. If I take > >>>>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 > >>>>> >> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60> as an > >>>>> example, the > >>>>> >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> We have requested to revoke all stalled PRs, and all commit > >>>>> messages must > >>>>> >> contain Apache JIRA number and title. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the > use > >>>>> of > >>>>> >> *most*)* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Yes we will correct it with "The files in the project source > >>>>> repository > >>>>> >> have appropriate headers", The files under target/ that generated > >>>>> by mvn > >>>>> >> building process would be excluded and all other project files > have > >>>>> been > >>>>> >> properly licensed and guarded by RAT plugin. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/> but that doesn't > >>>>> include any > >>>>> >> download links. http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/> does include > >>>>> download > >>>>> >> links to the proper release mirrors.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> That has been corrected by replacing it with the link > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Yes, we started with the community vote for releasing and the > result > >>>>> >> explicitly shows binding and non-binding votes. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *RE30 - Again, not using mirror.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Looks no mirror link in this field. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary > >>>>> >> releases."* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Yes it is and corrected > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Sorry I forgot it and corrected it by the Apache Jira ticket > >>>>> MNEMONIC-357 > >>>>> >> (resolved) as well as MNEMONIC-358 (resolved) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want to > use > >>>>> >> linters, sonar, etc.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Yes, we will investigate this plugin and apply them to project > >>>>> later, as > >>>>> >> for now, the QU10 has been replaced with "YES. The project records > >>>>> all bugs > >>>>> >> in the Apache’s JIRA issue tracker. Developer also uses Eclipse or > >>>>> Intellij > >>>>> >> IDEA to improve their code quality." > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security > >>>>> vulnerability > >>>>> >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to > >>>>> confirm > >>>>> >> this.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> The QU20 has been replaced with "YES. Security issues would be > >>>>> treated with > >>>>> >> the highest priority, computing service and memory service are > >>>>> separated > >>>>> >> from other modules and defined by interfaces, so security concerns > >>>>> could be > >>>>> >> largely mitigated by introduced this design at first place.", that > >>>>> this > >>>>> >> emphasize we consider the security aspect from design viewpoint as > >>>>> well. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 > >>>>> months.* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> We have asked owners to properly handle those tickets > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary > >>>>> or > >>>>> >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that?* > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> They are stalled PRs, we have asked the owner to properly revoke > >>>>> them. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> *The full checklist as follows for you to add comments* > >>>>> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp > >>>>> >> -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> Gary > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, John D. Ament < > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Huge +1 to that. > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra < > >>>>> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > >>>>> >> > wrote: > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for readiness > our > >>>>> >> > > graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist. > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > This should be used primarily for self check to make sure we > >>>>> are ready > >>>>> >> > for > >>>>> >> > > graduation. > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > - Henry > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament < > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > > wrote: > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> Hello, > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim to > >>>>> graduate. > >>>>> >> > Its > >>>>> >> > >> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been > >>>>> successful or > >>>>> >> not, > >>>>> >> > >> but > >>>>> >> > >> instead the IPMC as a whole. I can give you some feedback on > >>>>> the APMM > >>>>> >> > >> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this > form > >>>>> and > >>>>> >> > >> completing this form is not a requirement for graduation. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that > >>>>> completing > >>>>> >> > this > >>>>> >> > >> is not a requirement for graduation. Even then, podlings who > >>>>> think > >>>>> >> they > >>>>> >> > >> pass it may be missing things. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that > >>>>> brought me to > >>>>> >> > >> your > >>>>> >> > >> source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless > >>>>> you're on > >>>>> >> > gitbox, > >>>>> >> > >> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of > this > >>>>> item, > >>>>> >> > from > >>>>> >> > >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to > >>>>> "centos:latest" > >>>>> >> > which > >>>>> >> > >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are > from > >>>>> >> > committers > >>>>> >> > >> or from contributors. If I take > >>>>> >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as an > >>>>> example, > >>>>> >> the > >>>>> >> > >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source > >>>>> code. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect > (the > >>>>> use of > >>>>> >> > >> *most*) > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator. > apache.org/news/ > >>>>> but > >>>>> >> that > >>>>> >> > >> doesn't include any download links. > >>>>> >> > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does include > >>>>> download > >>>>> >> > >> links > >>>>> >> > >> to the proper release mirrors. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC). > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> RE30 - Again, not using mirror. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute > binary > >>>>> >> > releases." > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want > to > >>>>> use > >>>>> >> > >> linters, > >>>>> >> > >> sonar, etc. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security > >>>>> vulnerability > >>>>> >> > >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to > >>>>> confirm > >>>>> >> > >> this. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around > 6 > >>>>> months. > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any > >>>>> commentary or > >>>>> >> > >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that? > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> Regards, > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> John > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your > >>>>> evaluation, > >>>>> >> please > >>>>> >> > >> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks. > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > All comments and suggestions are welcome! > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > Cheers! > >>>>> >> > >> > Gary > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Hi John > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament < > >>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>> Please take a look at > >>>>> >> > >> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/ > dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> ga...@apache.org > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Hi John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser > and > >>>>> then > >>>>> >> > review > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> it, Thanks! > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Hi John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for > >>>>> pointing it > >>>>> >> out, > >>>>> >> > >> we > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> will correct this according to your guidance. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament < > >>>>> >> > >> johndam...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored > >>>>> artifacts, but > >>>>> >> you > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old > >>>>> releases > >>>>> >> > >> should > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> be archived. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I > can't > >>>>> find > >>>>> >> > >> anything > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format is going > >>>>> to be > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic > >>>>> and you'll > >>>>> >> > >> want > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> to grab your specific version from there. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the > navigator > >>>>> in home > >>>>> >> > >> page, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you > >>>>> very much > >>>>> >> > for > >>>>> >> > >> the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> suggestion. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > >>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package from > >>>>> Apache > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the following > >>>>> web page > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ > incubator-mnemonic/releases > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored > >>>>> Github page > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ > incubator-mnemonic/releases > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home page > >>>>> dedicated > >>>>> >> > for > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> downloading the latest one. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I download > >>>>> Mnemonic? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong < > >>>>> >> qich...@gmail.com> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for > >>>>> PPMC > >>>>> >> review, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for > >>>>> graduation. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model > >>>>> checklist > >>>>> >> > to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> check where > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, > so > >>>>> that > >>>>> >> will > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> help to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> assess better? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Uma > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" < > >>>>> jo...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level > >>>>> project . > >>>>> >> We > >>>>> >> > >> have > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a stable > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community > >>>>> under the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> guidance of our > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) > Wang < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed > >>>>> the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> construction of > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, > >>>>> this > >>>>> >> Apache > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> server hosted > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained > >>>>> by > >>>>> >> > dedicated > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> community > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the visitors > >>>>> from > >>>>> >> > Github > >>>>> >> > >> to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> our Apache > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward > >>>>> link in > >>>>> >> > >> project > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> README.md > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected > >>>>> view of > >>>>> >> this > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> website, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>please > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito > >>>>> mode. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. > Ament < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website > >>>>> to the > >>>>> >> > >> team. I > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> personally > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a > >>>>> graduation. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> that > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick > Hunt < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on > >>>>> additional RMs > >>>>> >> (and > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> increase > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> community > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly > document > >>>>> >> release > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> procedures I > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>feel > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > that > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely > >>>>> addressed. > >>>>> >> If > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> there is > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>interest > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, but > >>>>> up to > >>>>> >> you > >>>>> >> > - > >>>>> >> > >> do > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you feel > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> you're > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti > >>>>> Dutta < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to > >>>>> solve > >>>>> >> that > >>>>> >> > >> with > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> new > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> committers > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have had > >>>>> >> > >> contributions > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> from other > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and > we > >>>>> will > >>>>> >> see > >>>>> >> > >> more > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>committers. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick > >>>>> Hunt < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over > >>>>> the > >>>>> >> years > >>>>> >> > >> and > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this one if > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> very > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As > >>>>> noted my > >>>>> >> main > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern is > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>about > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular > >>>>> "self-sustaining and > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> self-governing > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/gu > >>>>> ides/graduation.html# > >>>>> >> > community > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise > >>>>> statements from > >>>>> >> > the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>community > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling > is > >>>>> >> > following > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "the apache > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>way" > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining > part > >>>>> for me. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community as a > whole > >>>>> is > >>>>> >> owning > >>>>> >> > >> the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> process. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew > >>>>> Purtell > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is > >>>>> ready for > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation is > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>they > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> do > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, > Mnemonic, > >>>>> I'd > >>>>> >> > >> encourage > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>search > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives > for > >>>>> >> examples > >>>>> >> > >> of > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> other > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>podlings > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the > >>>>> result to > >>>>> >> > the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>do > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > it. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to > >>>>> bring in > >>>>> >> more > >>>>> >> > >> RMs > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>response > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone > is > >>>>> aware > >>>>> >> of > >>>>> >> > >> it. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> didn't > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report might not > be > >>>>> read > >>>>> >> > back. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John > >>>>> D. Ament > >>>>> >> < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or > >>>>> Andrew > >>>>> >> > share > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> your feedback > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> with > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed > that > >>>>> >> podlings > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> see > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses > >>>>> the way > >>>>> >> TLPs > >>>>> >> > >> do. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do > >>>>> also > >>>>> >> > >> maintain > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a whimsy > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>page > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> of > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per project, > >>>>> Mnemonic > >>>>> >> > can > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see that > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > information > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/ > >>>>> >> > board/minutes/Mnemonic > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 > +1's > >>>>> on a > >>>>> >> dev > >>>>> >> > >> list > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> release > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>vote, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for more on > >>>>> list > >>>>> >> > >> discussion, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and yes > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would > be > >>>>> >> curious > >>>>> >> > to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see company > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes > >>>>> ask > >>>>> >> these > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> questions to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about > >>>>> graduation, not > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> actually moving > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > forward > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM > >>>>> Patrick Hunt < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback > >>>>> on the > >>>>> >> most > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> recent podling > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this > >>>>> has > >>>>> >> > changed > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all > releases > >>>>> have > >>>>> >> been > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> done by a > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>single > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/ > >>>>> >> incubator/March2017 > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my > only > >>>>> >> concerns > >>>>> >> > >> at > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this point > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>are > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, > >>>>> Gang(Gary) > >>>>> >> > >> Wang < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community > and > >>>>> project > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>be > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the > >>>>> following > >>>>> >> > >> votes > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> according > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > guides/graduation.html > >>>>> with > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> your > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection > today > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation > Status > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > projects/mnemonic.html > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, > >>>>> >> Gang(Gary) > >>>>> >> > >> Wang > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this > >>>>> discussion. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing > and > >>>>> >> continue > >>>>> >> > >> to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> attract > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>more > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry > >>>>> users are > >>>>> >> > aware > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> of mnemonic > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>and > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver > >>>>> unique > >>>>> >> values > >>>>> >> > to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> their > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>business > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > so I > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for > us > >>>>> to get > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>graduated > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left > >>>>> for us to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduate > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our > >>>>> project > >>>>> >> as > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John > D. > >>>>> Ament < > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent > >>>>> release, > >>>>> >> > your > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> current > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>growth > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering > >>>>> what was > >>>>> >> > >> left > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>guys > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you > believe > >>>>> you > >>>>> >> have > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> acted freely. - > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >
