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2014-03-07 7:47 GMT+01:00 Matthew Panetta <[email protected]>: > My thoughts exactly. Needs a different font. > On 07/03/2014 5:41 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Logo looks nice. Has a slight reference to the art work of M.C. >> Escher. Great work. >> >> Blue is always nice ;-) >> >> The typography however gives the whole logo a not too modern touch, >> because it uses letters with serifs. I wonder if this will match nicely >> with the serif free home page of struts 2? >> >> Best regards >> Markus Fischer >> >> Am 07.03.2014 06:50, schrieb Lukasz Lenart: >> >>> Link if attachment is missing >>> https://copy.com/MXrnIYz8KajY >>> >>> 2014-03-07 0:01 GMT+01:00 Chris Pratt <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> I must have missed it, I don't see anything?? >>>> (*Chris*) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Lukasz Lenart <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Work continues, 3rd version of logo, wdyt? I think dark-blue version >>>>> would be also nice. >>>>> >>>>> 2013-11-26 8:59 GMT+01:00 Lukasz Lenart <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> I have passed your comment to designer - anyway we have time and we >>>>>> can always start over when the first logo won't be good enough ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Reagrds >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/11/24 Rene Gielen <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 20.11.13 14:52, schrieb Christian Grobmeier: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:51, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2013/11/12 Cameron Morris <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I love the look of steampunk and rickety old bridges, but I think >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> sends >>>>>>>>>> the wrong message for a project fighting the perception of being >>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>> legacy. I'd say the more modern looking the better. However, some >>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>> more modern bridges look so space age it might be hard to tell that >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> they >>>>> >>>>>> are bridges if they are made into a small icon. Perhaps some of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> these >>>>> >>>>>> might spark an idea: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=modern%20bridge >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hmm... you know everything new someday will be old anyway ;-) I'd >>>>>>>>> rather say let's focus on having cool logo and not the message it >>>>>>>>> sends ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 on the cool logo NOW instead of wasting more time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Its always funny with us devs. We have a crap logo for years. >>>>>>>> Somebody shows up and contributes a fantastic logo (compared to the >>>>>>>> other one). >>>>>>>> Suddenly all devs become designers and social media communicators. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are right with our out-of-style old logo, and that things should >>>>>>> change here. But why exactly are we in such a hurry? Going too long >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> an old logo does not mean that a new logo should replace the old one >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> soon as it is just "better". IMHO we would want to replace it with >>>>>>> something that satisfies us for years. It should be cool and catchy >>>>>>> now >>>>>>> and in five years. "Fantastic compared to the other one" is IMO not >>>>>>> enough. Do we want old-time users to be surprised to find better logo >>>>>>> now, or do we want anyone stumbling over our site or a Zeroturnaround >>>>>>> web frameworks survey to think "hey man, nice logo!"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not a social media designer, and for that reason I need to >>>>>>> interact >>>>>>> with a designer. I need inspiration and suggestions to formulate in >>>>>>> turn >>>>>>> which directions to go for the next iteration. Since I'm not a >>>>>>> designer, >>>>>>> I'm for sure too lame with my own cool logo proposal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Over all the years I was involved with design tasks, I've seen design >>>>>>> emerge after some iterations in a process similar to what I outlined >>>>>>> above. I have never ever experienced being given a first proposal that >>>>>>> makes it directly to production. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally I am super-happy that we have such a great proposal. >>>>>>>> And if we don't have another option (one of us devs IS a designer AND >>>>>>>> does some work) >>>>>>>> we should definitely consider it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm super happy with the work being done, and I like some of the ideas >>>>>>> incorporated in the first proposals. I like the fact that someone >>>>>>> steps >>>>>>> up and is kind enough to donate work and creativity, and I am super >>>>>>> thankful for that - and, to be honest, it makes me bit shy to provide >>>>>>> too much criticism, especially since it is not my profession the >>>>>>> actual >>>>>>> work is all about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went back and forth many times the last two weeks to think and >>>>>>> re-think if I like the logo, how it might be seen, and what well >>>>>>> founded >>>>>>> criticism I could give. In my review I tried to both incorporate what >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> as a non-professional know about design, as well as what I as a >>>>>>> "professional design recipient" (read: consumer) feel when I see the >>>>>>> >>>>>> logo. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of my thoughts: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most common to me seems a combination of a dedicated logo icon with a >>>>>>> clean writing for the brand, or just an elaborate writing without logo >>>>>>> icon. From time to time you see some font gimmickry to make a pure >>>>>>> writing recognizable. But I have failed so far to come up with a >>>>>>> example >>>>>>> for a iconified design building a writing and a font design. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a look at those two sites (scroll to bottom on both) >>>>>>> http://devoxx.be/#/sponsors >>>>>>> http://www.gopivotal.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There a good bunch of logos, both of companies and open source >>>>>>> projects, >>>>>>> that look cool, clean and modern, yet timeless. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want to follow newest hipster logo trends, http://gruntjs.com/ >>>>>>> might be a source for inspiration. Nevertheless, this seems to be not >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> much on the timeless side... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That said and reviewed many times during last week, I'm more in favor >>>>>>> for the combination of an icon symbol combined with with a clean and >>>>>>> modern typographic font for the brand name Struts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stepping back a bit when viewing the proposed designs, what strikes me >>>>>>> most is that iconified graphic elements are used to construct a font. >>>>>>> How does this font look like? It does not seem to follow all of the >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> established rules for font design. If you color it completely black >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> the outline and reduce it to the font shape, it does not look like >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> "clean" typography, even a bit clunky. But besides (or even more >>>>>>> than?) >>>>>>> graphical details and tasteful colouring, the shape makes the first >>>>>>> impression to a viewer. I doubt that it is a good idea to bind the >>>>>>> font >>>>>>> shape of a writing to iconified graphics as building blocks, as this >>>>>>> limits how elaborate the typographic shape itself will look like. >>>>>>> Designing a font is a science by itself, you can find tons of >>>>>>> information on the web. Just for some reading giving an impression: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://designshack.net/articles/typography/8-rules- >>>>> for-creating-effective-typography/ >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> As for me, this breaks down to: I have tried to like it, but - as >>>>>>> proposed so far - I don't. This is my honest personal view. And I also >>>>>>> think it is a great starting point to go into design iteration. It >>>>>>> teases me to think, it gives the inspiration someone like me needs to >>>>>>> imagine and maybe phrase what he thinks the final logo (or a next >>>>>>> step) >>>>>>> should look like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Earlier in this discussion, Dave came up with an interesting Google >>>>>>> search for an isolated logo icon to maybe be combined with a clean >>>>>>> brand >>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=steampunk+box+truss&safe=on&; >>>>> espv=210&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei= >>>>> HjuCUq3NCYrnsATbvYLIBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1478&bih=1042# >>>>> es_sm=91&espv=210&q=box+truss&safe=off&tbm=isch >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Those two for example could be excellent templates for an iconified >>>>>>> logo >>>>>>> graphic: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; >>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=eQDpP6WpnMmoXM:&imgrefurl=http://www. >>>>> germanlightproducts.com/products/16-inch-square-box-truss-f44/&docid= >>>>> yGLxIpnpCserbM&imgurl=http://www.germanlightproducts.com/ >>>>> wp-content/uploads/2013/01/F44Box_0.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei= >>>>> zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:73,s:0,i:305& >>>>> iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=176&tbnw=236&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=155&ty=76 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; >>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=rGzeKbh__BY3LM:&imgrefurl=http://www. >>>>> brownswelding.com.au/truss500/&docid=-uk8Vty_qJyznM&imgurl= >>>>> http://www.brownswelding.com.au/truss500/images/500box6way. >>>>> jpg&w=200&h=200&ei=zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1& >>>>> ved=1t:3588,r:78,s:0,i:320&iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=160&tbnw= >>>>> 160&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=60&ty=50 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Also a very reduced and iconified bridge could be interesting for a >>>>>>> logo >>>>>>> icon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suck badly at crafting graphics, but if time permits I'll give it a >>>>>>> try to express my thoughts in some graphical draft. But basically my >>>>>>> overall thoughts go into a direction like the Typesafe or Hazelcast >>>>>>> >>>>>> logos. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I understood it, this contribution is backed by Lukasz >>>>>>>> company. I am very grateful >>>>>>>> for the huge effort they already put into this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Instead of discussing completely new approaches and ideas which might >>>>>>>> lead to even more discussion, >>>>>>>> we all should answer these two question: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Can you live with the proposal logo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just me: actually no, but it's a great start :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) If yes, do you prefer the dark or the bright version? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My answer to 1) is YES!!!! >>>>>>>> My answer to 2) I LOVE BOTH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> René Gielen >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/rgielen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Łukasz >>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
