I like Roboto and Inconsolata. Also found Voltaire and Oswald. https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC|Viga|Audiowide|Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Roboto|Nobile|Inconsolata|Voltaire|Oswald
On 7 Mar 2014, at 6:05 pm, Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org> wrote: > Maybe some of these > > https://www.google.com/fonts#ReviewPlace:refine/Collection:Alegreya+Sans+SC|Flamenco|Cambo|Esteban|Audiowide|Carrois+Gothic+SC|Alef|Prosto+One|Varela+Round|Roboto|Nobile|Inconsolata > > 2014-03-07 7:47 GMT+01:00 Matthew Panetta <matt...@panetta.id.au>: >> My thoughts exactly. Needs a different font. >> On 07/03/2014 5:41 pm, "i...@flyingfischer.ch" <i...@flyingfischer.ch> >> wrote: >> >>> The Logo looks nice. Has a slight reference to the art work of M.C. >>> Escher. Great work. >>> >>> Blue is always nice ;-) >>> >>> The typography however gives the whole logo a not too modern touch, >>> because it uses letters with serifs. I wonder if this will match nicely >>> with the serif free home page of struts 2? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Markus Fischer >>> >>> Am 07.03.2014 06:50, schrieb Lukasz Lenart: >>> >>>> Link if attachment is missing >>>> https://copy.com/MXrnIYz8KajY >>>> >>>> 2014-03-07 0:01 GMT+01:00 Chris Pratt <thechrispr...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> I must have missed it, I don't see anything?? >>>>> (*Chris*) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Work continues, 3rd version of logo, wdyt? I think dark-blue version >>>>>> would be also nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013-11-26 8:59 GMT+01:00 Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have passed your comment to designer - anyway we have time and we >>>>>>> can always start over when the first logo won't be good enough ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reagrds >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/11/24 Rene Gielen <rene.gie...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 20.11.13 14:52, schrieb Christian Grobmeier: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:51, Lukasz Lenart wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/11/12 Cameron Morris <cmor...@part.net>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I love the look of steampunk and rickety old bridges, but I think >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> sends >>>>>>>>>>> the wrong message for a project fighting the perception of being >>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>>> legacy. I'd say the more modern looking the better. However, some >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> more modern bridges look so space age it might be hard to tell that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>> >>>>>>> are bridges if they are made into a small icon. Perhaps some of >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>> >>>>>>> might spark an idea: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=modern%20bridge >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hmm... you know everything new someday will be old anyway ;-) I'd >>>>>>>>>> rather say let's focus on having cool logo and not the message it >>>>>>>>>> sends ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 on the cool logo NOW instead of wasting more time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Its always funny with us devs. We have a crap logo for years. >>>>>>>>> Somebody shows up and contributes a fantastic logo (compared to the >>>>>>>>> other one). >>>>>>>>> Suddenly all devs become designers and social media communicators. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are right with our out-of-style old logo, and that things should >>>>>>>> change here. But why exactly are we in such a hurry? Going too long >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> an old logo does not mean that a new logo should replace the old one >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> soon as it is just "better". IMHO we would want to replace it with >>>>>>>> something that satisfies us for years. It should be cool and catchy >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>> and in five years. "Fantastic compared to the other one" is IMO not >>>>>>>> enough. Do we want old-time users to be surprised to find better logo >>>>>>>> now, or do we want anyone stumbling over our site or a Zeroturnaround >>>>>>>> web frameworks survey to think "hey man, nice logo!"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not a social media designer, and for that reason I need to >>>>>>>> interact >>>>>>>> with a designer. I need inspiration and suggestions to formulate in >>>>>>>> turn >>>>>>>> which directions to go for the next iteration. Since I'm not a >>>>>>>> designer, >>>>>>>> I'm for sure too lame with my own cool logo proposal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Over all the years I was involved with design tasks, I've seen design >>>>>>>> emerge after some iterations in a process similar to what I outlined >>>>>>>> above. I have never ever experienced being given a first proposal that >>>>>>>> makes it directly to production. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Personally I am super-happy that we have such a great proposal. >>>>>>>>> And if we don't have another option (one of us devs IS a designer AND >>>>>>>>> does some work) >>>>>>>>> we should definitely consider it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm super happy with the work being done, and I like some of the ideas >>>>>>>> incorporated in the first proposals. I like the fact that someone >>>>>>>> steps >>>>>>>> up and is kind enough to donate work and creativity, and I am super >>>>>>>> thankful for that - and, to be honest, it makes me bit shy to provide >>>>>>>> too much criticism, especially since it is not my profession the >>>>>>>> actual >>>>>>>> work is all about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I went back and forth many times the last two weeks to think and >>>>>>>> re-think if I like the logo, how it might be seen, and what well >>>>>>>> founded >>>>>>>> criticism I could give. In my review I tried to both incorporate what >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> as a non-professional know about design, as well as what I as a >>>>>>>> "professional design recipient" (read: consumer) feel when I see the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> logo. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some of my thoughts: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most common to me seems a combination of a dedicated logo icon with a >>>>>>>> clean writing for the brand, or just an elaborate writing without logo >>>>>>>> icon. From time to time you see some font gimmickry to make a pure >>>>>>>> writing recognizable. But I have failed so far to come up with a >>>>>>>> example >>>>>>>> for a iconified design building a writing and a font design. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have a look at those two sites (scroll to bottom on both) >>>>>>>> http://devoxx.be/#/sponsors >>>>>>>> http://www.gopivotal.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There a good bunch of logos, both of companies and open source >>>>>>>> projects, >>>>>>>> that look cool, clean and modern, yet timeless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you want to follow newest hipster logo trends, http://gruntjs.com/ >>>>>>>> might be a source for inspiration. Nevertheless, this seems to be not >>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>> much on the timeless side... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That said and reviewed many times during last week, I'm more in favor >>>>>>>> for the combination of an icon symbol combined with with a clean and >>>>>>>> modern typographic font for the brand name Struts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stepping back a bit when viewing the proposed designs, what strikes me >>>>>>>> most is that iconified graphic elements are used to construct a font. >>>>>>>> How does this font look like? It does not seem to follow all of the >>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>> established rules for font design. If you color it completely black >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the outline and reduce it to the font shape, it does not look like >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> "clean" typography, even a bit clunky. But besides (or even more >>>>>>>> than?) >>>>>>>> graphical details and tasteful colouring, the shape makes the first >>>>>>>> impression to a viewer. I doubt that it is a good idea to bind the >>>>>>>> font >>>>>>>> shape of a writing to iconified graphics as building blocks, as this >>>>>>>> limits how elaborate the typographic shape itself will look like. >>>>>>>> Designing a font is a science by itself, you can find tons of >>>>>>>> information on the web. Just for some reading giving an impression: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://designshack.net/articles/typography/8-rules- >>>>>> for-creating-effective-typography/ >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for me, this breaks down to: I have tried to like it, but - as >>>>>>>> proposed so far - I don't. This is my honest personal view. And I also >>>>>>>> think it is a great starting point to go into design iteration. It >>>>>>>> teases me to think, it gives the inspiration someone like me needs to >>>>>>>> imagine and maybe phrase what he thinks the final logo (or a next >>>>>>>> step) >>>>>>>> should look like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Earlier in this discussion, Dave came up with an interesting Google >>>>>>>> search for an isolated logo icon to maybe be combined with a clean >>>>>>>> brand >>>>>>>> writing: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=steampunk+box+truss&safe=on&; >>>>>> espv=210&es_sm=91&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei= >>>>>> HjuCUq3NCYrnsATbvYLIBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1478&bih=1042# >>>>>> es_sm=91&espv=210&q=box+truss&safe=off&tbm=isch >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those two for example could be excellent templates for an iconified >>>>>>>> logo >>>>>>>> graphic: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; >>>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=eQDpP6WpnMmoXM:&imgrefurl=http://www. >>>>>> germanlightproducts.com/products/16-inch-square-box-truss-f44/&docid= >>>>>> yGLxIpnpCserbM&imgurl=http://www.germanlightproducts.com/ >>>>>> wp-content/uploads/2013/01/F44Box_0.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei= >>>>>> zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:73,s:0,i:305& >>>>>> iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=176&tbnw=236&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=155&ty=76 >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/imgres?safe=off&es_sm=91&espv=210&; >>>>>> bih=1042&biw=1478&tbm=isch&tbnid=rGzeKbh__BY3LM:&imgrefurl=http://www. >>>>>> brownswelding.com.au/truss500/&docid=-uk8Vty_qJyznM&imgurl= >>>>>> http://www.brownswelding.com.au/truss500/images/500box6way. >>>>>> jpg&w=200&h=200&ei=zPCRUtuZOYbjswaHzoCwCA&zoom=1& >>>>>> ved=1t:3588,r:78,s:0,i:320&iact=rc&page=3&tbnh=160&tbnw= >>>>>> 160&start=67&ndsp=35&tx=60&ty=50 >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also a very reduced and iconified bridge could be interesting for a >>>>>>>> logo >>>>>>>> icon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I suck badly at crafting graphics, but if time permits I'll give it a >>>>>>>> try to express my thoughts in some graphical draft. But basically my >>>>>>>> overall thoughts go into a direction like the Typesafe or Hazelcast >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> logos. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as I understood it, this contribution is backed by Lukasz >>>>>>>>> company. I am very grateful >>>>>>>>> for the huge effort they already put into this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Instead of discussing completely new approaches and ideas which might >>>>>>>>> lead to even more discussion, >>>>>>>>> we all should answer these two question: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) Can you live with the proposal logo? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> just me: actually no, but it's a great start :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) If yes, do you prefer the dark or the bright version? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My answer to 1) is YES!!!! >>>>>>>>> My answer to 2) I LOVE BOTH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> René Gielen >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/rgielen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Łukasz >>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org >>> >>> > > > > -- > Łukasz > + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
