Hi,

> On 24. Sep 2026, at 09:24, Adam Williamson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2026-09-24 at 03:43 +0000, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 10:58 PM Miro Hrončok via devel
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Problem 5: installed package openssl-devel-engine-1:3.5.7-2.fc43.x86_64
>>> requires openssl-devel(x86-64) = 1:3.5.7-2.fc43, but none of the providers 
>>> can
>>> be installed
>>>   - openssl-devel-1:3.5.7-2.fc43.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade
>>> repository
>>>   - problem with installed package
>>> 
>>> Something needs to obsolete this. openssl-devel maybe?
>> 
>> openssl-devel-engine is now openssl3-devel-engine
>> (which also depends on openssl3-devel). for the
>> openssl3 compatibility rpms.
>> 
>> I am not entirely sure how that needs to be
>> reflected in obsoletes and provides, but I
>> presume some of the various rpm experts
>> will know the correct incantations to make
>> everything just work.
> 
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=3096308 shows:
> 
> * Tue Sep 08 2026 Dmitry Belyavskiy <[email protected]> - 1:4.0.2-2
> - Obsolete openssl-devel-engine explicitly
>  Resolves: rhbz#2527847
> 
> but...it might actually have been better to have openssl3-devel-engine
> obsolete and provide openssl-devel-engine, since it's possible people
> who have it installed still want/need openssl 3 engine devel headers.

People who have openssl-devel-engine installed on F44 also have openssl-devel 
installed. openssl-devel exists on F45, but conflicts with openssl3-devel.

Wouldn’t marking openssl3-devel-engine as providing and obsoleting 
openssl-devel-engine just lead to an attempt to install both openssl-devel and 
openssl3-devel-engine on F45, and therefore to a conflict?

NB: I made that point in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2527847#c1.

Engines were deprecated in Fedora 41 
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpensslDeprecateEngine). Maybe it’s 
finally time to let them go? They’re fully removed from OpenSSL 4 anyway.


-- 
Clemens Lang
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat

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