I took it way differently. What I read was "when personas are based on
the pre-conceived assumptions and biases a designer may have, then
that is bad."

So, when the personas are not built on objective research, they are
not correct and thus not helpful. I really don't know what the true
intent of his statement was, but that's how I took it. Seems like
common sense that designers wouldn't need a persona of themselves if
they are building for, well, themselves.

Jeff

On Nov 16, 2007 9:20 AM, Jared M. Spool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think what Alan was trying to say is this:
>
> Personas are a tool for helping a team understand better who their key users
> are and what those users need from the design.
>
> If the team already understands this, then they don't need personas.
>
> One context where a team may already understand this is when they are
> designing for themselves. In this case, personas won't add much value.
>
> (I wrote more about this here: http://tinyurl.com/2hpxzr )
>
> Jared
>
> Jared M. Spool
> User Interface Engineering
> 510 Turnpike St., Suite 102, North Andover, MA 01845
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>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Jeff White wrote:
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>
> I took it that way too, Jim.
>
>
>
>
> Kind of like asking a pizza guru when pizza wouldn't be the ideal meal
>
> to consume, and she goes "when it's not made right". :-)
>
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 12:43 AM, Jim Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Alan Cooper wrote:
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>
>
>
>
>  The place where personas would not be useful is where the persona is
>
> elaborate camouflage for a designer creating self-referential
>
> solutions.
>
> In other words, personas help designers design for users. When
>
> personas
>
> are used to help designers design for themselves instead, that would
>
> be bad.
>
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>
>
> That's where poorly created personas aren't useful, not where personas
>
> in general aren't useful, no?
>
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