On Feb 12, 2008, at 9:43 AM, David Malouf wrote:

> Mark hit it on the head, it is a developer/engineering inspired and  
> valued
> process. It is for THEM! It is not about us, for us, by us, or  
> valuable to
> us. This is my #1 issue with agile. And all the things you say  
> below about
> getting design into agile, are hacks! They are not the best of what  
> we can
> do, but what we can do in THEIR framework.

WHOA!

Us?!? THEM?!?

There's a whole lotta us vs. them coming out these days.

While our own research on what makes successful experiences is still  
young and rough around the edges, one strong pattern that emerged  
immediately was that the most successful teams are actually TEAMS.  
None of this "They don't get it" and "We need a process that works  
for us" stuff.

I'd be real careful promoting this us vs. them sentiment. I don't see  
it leading to long term successful design practices.

Just sayin'

Jared

Jared M. Spool
User Interface Engineering
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