At the postmortem dinner for the conference on sunday night. Myself &
Greg Petroff when off on a debate about Agile being good or bad. I
find it interesting that BOTH of our pre-eminent keynotes are both
talking down agile, YET we as a UX community believe it is still
valuable. Yikes! It screams to me the horrible influences we have
been forced to assimilate towards (taking some of Bill's juices and
running with it) around being under the thumb of engineering all
these decades.

Through the discussion what became clear was that the term
"waterfall" is associated with RUP (or RUP like processes) and for
some reason is equated to "documentation". However, the meaning of
waterfall to me means ... define before build as per Bill's
discussion. Know what you are doing before you green light spending
production dollars. What follows that design period does not need to
be reams of useless and often mindless paper.

On another point.
I really disagree with this:

> In fact, one of the core aspects of UX%u2014delivering 
> what the users need%u2014can be better assured through 
> agile process (IMO) . 

B/c I think it shows a lack of understanding to what UX is all
about--telling a story. A lot of people have already highlighted
"story telling" as a major theme of the conference and I couldn't
agree more, but the way to creatively write a story, or create a
drama, or event, is to do it through deconstruction. I never really
understood what that meant till this conference, and this
conversation, but for now at least, it means for me, that I create a
vision and then deconstruct it through value statements and other
criteria used to make choices. 

The example is ... The theatrical version of a movie vs. a
director's cut. Almost always in process, the director's cut is
made first and then it is cut down to fit the theater. 

If I just build in iterations, there is never a whole, guiding light
or prototype from which I can cut away at.

It seems that unless there is a distinct design phase where this
visioning process can happen owned by design for design with
collaboration and consultation from engineering and business, we are
NOT *designing* user experiences, but just building them.

Now, Agile development processes seem GREAT after designs are "green
lighted". There are lots of advantages to engineers in those
processes, but assimilating to them seems like a grave mistake at
this point to me.

- dave


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