Curser operation on Apples is different than on PCs. With all apples, not just VO ones, the curser is not ON the letter but to the right of the letter, and if you delete you move the curser back one letter, ie type the word: the the curser will be just to the right of the e when you finish. when you push delete the curser moves left one space removing the e and is now to the right of the h. If you then type e again, the curser moves right and the e appears and the curser is now to the right of the e. To insert a letter or word, the letter or word appears to the left of the curser location and the cursor moves to the right of the word or letter you entered. Say you wanted to add a second t to the word: the, just after the first t. Place the cursor to the right of the letter t and push t. The letter t is added and the curser is to the right of the second t that you just added making the resulting word: tthe. Vickie Weir

Harry Bates wrote:

I changed the subject line to reflect the topic under discussion. I certainly need help in using VO with TextEdit. I have trouble editing with VO, and it seems like the VO cursor is in one place and the active cursor is in another. What is the command to tether the active cursor with the VO cursor? Also when I try to shut down the computer, I am informed that the open TextEdit program is preventing the shutdown. I am asked if I would like to save the changes to the document, and what is the command to say yes or no? I am afraid my JAWS and PC habits are interfeering here, since in a PC document all I have to do is press the "y" for yes and the "n" key for no, then the document closes. What is the command to close an open TE document? The command+q does not seem to be working for me. When editing for instance removing the 2 between 123, Which number do I focus on? Do I focus on the 1, or the 3? In a PC document with jaws I always focus on the 2 and press the delete key, and the 2 is removed. Also if I wanted to insert a 2 between the numbers of 13 all I had to do is focus on the 3 and press the 2 and the number is always inserted to the left of the character which has focus. So far, the inability for me to edit text in a TE document with consistency is driving me crazy. It seems that reading the keyboard commands and trying to edit is not working out. I need to be spoon fed one spoonfull at a time. Thanks for your help in this matter.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes' Inaccessibility and VoiceOver


As an aside, but yet related to this topic, I've noticed a very annoying behavior with Text Edit lately that I can't quite figure out how to really reproduce consistantly. Basically if I'm editing a text document, I switch to lets say Mail and come back later to Text Edit, the arrow keys will not read the text any longer. Its almost as though the Edit area is locked from me reading it with the regular cursor, but yet I can read it fine by navigating it with VO. It actually appears as though its locked as I can't seem to edit anything. Only quiting Text Edit resolve the problem. No matter if I bring the cursors together or turn VO on/off has no affect. Has anyone else noticed this?

tnx


Scott
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