Actually, I am playing fair. In fact, I do own the files in question so can
change or delete them. That is the way the original installer installed
them. 

My point was that if Apple really has changed permission handling in a way
that affects installations, then the installer should be able to handle it
in an intelligent way, as this is going to affect nearly everyone who
installs. Stopping with an unintelligible error message is not handling the
problem. I expected that the installer would actually do something along the
lines of asking for administrator access, which is what should be happening
for any installation into the system wide applications folder. Overall the
installation process seems a very inconsistent - for example, the
applications are installed system wide, but fonts are installed in the local
user's font folder, not the system wide font folder.

As it is, I have just had to waste two hours dumping the complete Office
installation and reinstall because the VBA system suddenly started denying
it existed (after stopping with a "not enough memory" error!).

-- 
Eric Hildum

> From: Barry Wainwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:16:11 +0100
> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Office Update fails and screws up my Entourage
> 
> On 22/10/2002 18:51, "Eric Hildum"  wrote:
> 
>> See above, if the permission change had an effect, then I would expect that
>> the installer should be smart enough to handle it. This will, after all, be
>> an extremely common issue that would be easy to diagnose and handle.
> 
> Come on Eric, play fair!
> 
> If an installer messed with things it wasn't supposed to you'd be crying
> foul in an instant. Yet here you are asking why an installer can't just
> ignore a users file privileges and change things the user has said it has no
> right to?
> 
> Privileges are there for a reason. NO installer should EVER override the
> privileges set on any file.


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