Brent, did your dog communicate to you (in dogese, of course) that she has - NO - INNER NARRATIVE? or you are just ignorant to perceive such? (Of course do not expect such at the complexity level of your 11b neurons) John M
On 11/22/08, Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Günther Greindl wrote: >> >> >> Kory Heath wrote: >>> If Lucky Alice is conscious and Empty-Headed Alice is not conscious, >>> then there are partial zombies halfway between them. Like you, I can't >>> make any sense of these partial zombies. But >> also can't make any > > I don't see why partial "zombies" are problematic. My dog is conscious of > perceptions, of being an individual, of memories and even dreams, but he > doesn't > have an inner narrative - so is he a partial zombie? > > Brent > >> >> I think a materialist would either have to argue that Lucky Alice is >> conscious (if he focuses on physical states) and that removing neurons >> would lead to fading qualia (the "partial zombies") or simply assume >> that already Lucky Alice is a Zombie (because he focuses on causal >> dynamics). >> >> (I would like to note that I have dropped MAT in the meantime and tend >> to MECH. Just wanted to "simulate" a materialist argumentation :-) - >> maybe I can convince myself of MAT and not MECH again *grin*) >> >> Could we say that MAT focuses on _physical states_ (exclusively) and >> MECH on _dynamics_? And that MGA shows that one can't have both? >> >> >> Cheers, >> Günther >> >> > >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
