On Jul 24, 12:33 am, Jesse Mazer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think that would be the alternative to spacetime substantivalism known as
> "relationalism" (discussed in some of the papers I linked to), it's
> certainly possible as well, I think if we had a complete theory of quantum
> gravity it might naturally favor one or the other (the way the relativity of
> simultaneity naturally favors eternalism over presentism) even though it
> might not totally settle the issue for philosophers.

Interesting, thanks. I'll poke around in there. So far I'm not seeing
anyone propose an active, participatory, or experiential notion based
on qualitative sensorimotive perception like I am. The idea of
'relation' is very 3rd person and collapses well into a mathematical
framework, but I don't think a universe based on that alone would let
me in it.

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