On Aug 6, 6:48 am, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote:
> On 06.08.2011 12:27 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Craig
> > Weinberg<whatsons...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> ...
> >> Consciousness isn't provided. It's not a service. It's like saying
> >> that mass is being provided to an object.
> > My position is that consciousness occurs necessarily if the sort of
> > activity that leads to intelligent behaviour occurs. This is not
> > immediately obvious, at least to me. I assume therefore that it is
> > not true: that it is possible to have intelligent behaviour (or
> > neuron-like behaviour) without consciousness. This assumption is
> > then shown to lead to absurdity.
> How do you define intelligent behaviour? For example in the book
> Dario Floreano and Claudio Mattiussi, Bio-Inspired Artificial
> Intelligence: Theories, Methods, and Technologies, 2008
> there is a nice chapter about immune systems. I would say that the
> behaviour of an immune system is very intelligent. What does it mean then?

> P.S. The paragraph about intelligence from the book 
> abovehttp://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/03/intelligence.html

Exactly! It's up to us whether we determine behaviors to be isomorphic
enough to our own intelligence to infer that it too experiences
similar intelligence. That determination doesn't create intelligence
in the object nor remove it. That's why the whole question of whether
simulating a brain that seems intelligent to us really is intelligent
is a red herring.

I have considered that our particular human intelligence may actually
be an elaboration-evolution of the intelligence of our immune system,
extended to extra-somatic threats.


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