On 12/6/2011 4:11 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:


     The only thing that matter is digitalness... the
    > fact that you run it on your pingpong ball computer doesn't matter.
    >
    It does matter. If you run computations on pingpong ball computer that
    interact with the environment


This is relative to the environment. If you want to interact with the "simulated" brain, you *must* run at the same level. That does not preclude that the simulated brain can be run on any level, only interaction with you require a specific level... your level.

A human being is not a closed system. So the "substitution level" for Bruno's argument to go thru could include digital simulation of a large part of the universe - or maybe all of it.

Brent

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