On 8 March 2012 18:37, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > each of whom must possess a singular perspective. > > > Yes, both brains have a single identical perspective.
I'm sorry, but your recent comments strongly suggest you have not fully grasped the premise of the experiment. After duplication and reconstitution in W and M the two copies cannot possibly have "identical perspectives". They are not in a "symmetrical room" - they are reconstituted in two different environments and consequently their personal histories will immediately begin to diverge. As to their still being "one person", if you stuck a pin in the one in W, surely you wouldn't expect the one in M to flinch? You seem to be pursuing a separate argument about the definition of "person", which is not the point at issue. Sure, if we could routinely duplicate bodies, we would need a more sophisticated book-keeping method to keep track of them. But the copies in question could be in no doubt as to their possession of separate and mutually-insulated perspectives after duplication, even if they might be apt argue fruitlessly about which was the "true heir". David > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:11 PM, David Nyman <da...@davidnyman.com> wrote: > >> > "The 1-view from its own perspective" can NEVER be plural. > > > Why? > >> > After duplication there are two people, > > > One person. > >> >> > each of whom must possess a singular perspective. > > > Yes, both brains have a single identical perspective. > >> >> > Both of these persons would recall being unsure in Helsinki where he >> > would end up > > > Yes, both would recall identical things. > >> > Do you dissent from this?. > > > Only the part about "there are two people", there are two bodies but only > one conscious person in that symmetrical room because if you swap their > positions subjectively there is no difference and objectively there is no > difference so it's not much of a jump to conclude there is no difference > between them. > > John K Clark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
