On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > How many times do you want me to restate the obvious third alternative >
42. > YOU CREATE the reason to act. OK, then you create the reason to act for a reason OR you create the reason to act for no reason, there is no third alternative. > You are saying that whatever is done in a non-systematic way has no > cause. Yes. > That is a the most basic logical fallacy there is. Bullshit. > > You are erroneously assuming that all causes are systematic If it was caused then something about it must be systematic. If not, if it's a miracle and not repeatable and you still insist on calling it a cause then the word "cause" has no meaning, or at least it becomes operationally indistinguishable from the word "random". > My point is that intention is neither caused entirely by a system nor it > is entirely without a system - will is the creation of system; a third > option. > So you think X is not Y and you also think X is not not Y, now THAT sort of doublethink is the most basic logical fallacy there is. > You are determined by your will? Yes, or at least you want to be determined by your will, but sometimes events conspire in such a way that you can't always get what you want; a great Rolling Stones song by the way. > So you think we should say "I am walked across the street by my will". Obviously, although that's a rather awkward way of phrasing it; I usually just say "I'm walking across the street because I want to", of course just like everything else I want to for a reason OR I want to for no reason. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.