On 5/29/2012 11:04 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 5/29/2012 11:52 PM, meekerdb wrote:On 5/29/2012 8:11 PM, Aleksandr Lokshin wrote:The original poster introduces what free will means. 1) Every choice which is allowed in physics is a random choice or a determinate one.2) If human free will choice exists, it is agreed that it is not determined by somelaw and is not a random process.3)We have agfeed that the choice of "an arbitrary element" is not a random chaice andis not a choice determinate by some law.## Advertising

We haven't even agreed that it is a choice. It's just using a function, as in (. is anelement of X) so (x is an element of X)->true and (y is an element of X)->false. (allx |x an element of X) doesn't involve choosing an element x, just specifying a functionthat defines X. Then it is a "choice determinate by some law." And whether X isinfinite or finite is a red herring. Suppose I said,"Consider an arbitrary person withno feet. Then he has no toenails." This is a perfectly valid inference whether thereare finitely many or infinitely many persons in the multiverse.BrentBrent,You are assuming that there is no difference between an known and an unknownquantity. A big mistake!

Can you quote where I have made this assumption? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.