On Jun 4, 10:37 pm, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If it doesn't make sense to you then you can append "pseudo-" whenever
> >> you talk about deciding something or having free will. We make
> >> pseudo-decisions and have pseudo-free will. People who make bad
> >> pseudo-decisions get into trouble; I did it against my pseudo-will
> >> because he held a gun to my head; and so on.
>
> > If it's causally efficacious (gets real people into real trouble) the
> > it can't be pseudo.
>
> An automatic pilot has pseudo-free will according to you but it is
> still causally efficacious.

An automatic pilot has no will. It's just a program implemented
technologically. Its causal efficacy is second hand by way of being
designed by people who have free will.

> However, if your argument is now that if
> it's causally efficacious it is real then not pseudo, then that's fine
> too - and compatible with determinism.

The name describes what it is - automatic pilot: A prosthetic
extension of consensus skills derived from the senses and motives of
human pilots.

Craig

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