Stathis: in my simplicity: "free is free" and *"pseudo"* means *"not really".* So: *pseudo-free will* is *not free (will*), only something similar. Restricted by circumstances. Or so. I allow into my 'deterministically' constrained free will(!) a free choice from available variants. I know nothing about how to apply it: how the unknowable (hidden? not yet disclosed?) factors incluence my decision, so I say "I have a choice. Same way the less agnostics say: free will. Please correct me if you know more. Thanx John M
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> If it looks like it has a will but doesn't then it has pseudo-will. > > > > It only looks like it has a will if you interpret it that way. It > > doesn't look that way to me. No more than Bugs Bunny is a pseudo- > > rabbit that has a pseudo-appetite for pseudo-carrots. It could be said > > that way figuratively, and that is the sense in which any simulation > > or emulation 'exists' but literally, Bugs Bunny is a shared audio- > > visual text: A recurring part of our direct personal and indirect > > cultural sense experience. > > I know that according to you I'm misinterpreting the deterministically > driven entity as having free will - we've established that much if > nothing else! So if I think it has free will but I'm wrong, it has > pseudo-free will. How can we tell that its will is pseudo-free? You > said earlier that if it's causally efficacious it can't be pseudo-free > but that's obviously wrong. What other criteria can we use to decide > if the entity in question has true free will or just looks as if it > has free will to people like me? > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.