On Jun 5, 12:07 am, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> An automatic pilot has pseudo-free will according to you but it is > >> still causally efficacious. > > > An automatic pilot has no will. It's just a program implemented > > technologically. Its causal efficacy is second hand by way of being > > designed by people who have free will. > > If it looks like it has a will but doesn't then it has pseudo-will.
It only looks like it has a will if you interpret it that way. It doesn't look that way to me. No more than Bugs Bunny is a pseudo- rabbit that has a pseudo-appetite for pseudo-carrots. It could be said that way figuratively, and that is the sense in which any simulation or emulation 'exists' but literally, Bugs Bunny is a shared audio- visual text: A recurring part of our direct personal and indirect cultural sense experience. > If > it has pseudo-will and is causally efficacious then the fact that it > is causally efficacious does not necessarily mean that its will is > pseudo-free. So we could all have pseudo-free will. It doesn't have pseudo-will, it has only what we project on it. We do have pseudo-free will as well as authentic free will though. The authenticity of our free will is directly proportionate to its interiority. What we feel as being most internal, most 'us' is where our freedom is most directly expressed. The further out we get, the more our will is diluted by considerations external to our inner-most sensibilities. For instance, like in cartoons of conscience as a devil and angel on our shoulder, the person has free will to listen to one or the other or neither. We have all kinds of semantic momentum, subconscious agendas, unconscious drives, etc which are 'us' on one level but not under our control on another. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.