On Jun 15, 2012, at 7:05 AM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Stathis > > let me try to explain myself in a less "1st p. vocabulary". As I explained I > carry an 'agnostic' worldview, because over the past millennia the > information what humanity gathered about "the world" increased steadily and > we have so far no indication of having reached omniscience. So I believe you > when asking out loud: "what ELSE is there?" and I have no answer of course. 2 > trivial e.g.,-s: > # Before Volta there was no hint to 'electrical' (whatever that is) phenomena > but after his observation a branch of developing physics speaks a lot of > such. #The Flat Earth was also a notion (even the Bible speaks about "the 4 > corners" of it) and newer information developed a different cosmology over > the past centuries. > And so on, why not getting new information in mentality questions as well? or > factors (even so far unknown 'domains') that may influence whatever we do > know/think/choose? No possible scientific discovery would make a difference to the debate on free will insofar as it is just a matter of semantics. > And may I throw back your term: the "choice" you ask about is a PSEUDO - > choice, not choosing from ANYTHING (haphazardly), but within the given > possibilities (potentials) - in the unlimited complexity of which currently > we know only a portion. More we know than yesterday or 1000 - 10,000 years > ago, but believably less than we may learn hereafter. (I.e. in my > agnosticism). Can you have a choice if your actions are determined or random? That's the question. The answer is a question of taste. The reality of living your life and making choices or pseudo-choices has nothing to do with the answer. > (And you left untouched my question about W H O is discussing with YOUR > brain - and how?) I am, the entity generated by my brain or whatever is generating my consciousness. And that too is independent of the question of free will. Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.