Hi Craig Weinberg You are right in a sense. Weather prediction is a form of "fortune-telling".
But the reason traditional fortune-telling is frowned on by the Bible is that it invokes powers outside of God or over God (Thou shalt have no other God before me). I don't consider weather prediction as a replacement for God, so no problem. A more common false God however is your career, and we're all guilty of that. Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-17, 12:35:03 Subject: Re: The I Ching, a cominatorically complete hyperlinked semantic field(mind). Thanks Roger, Your work on this looks very interesting. I think I get the gist of it but I will have to take a closer look. I wonder how would fortune telling not include weather reports, actuarial tables, financial forecasts, etc? Historically there doesn't seem to be any meaningful correlation between fortune telling and any particular danger to people as a whole. Certainly no more danger than drinking wine or eating ice cream. Craig On Friday, August 17, 2012 9:49:24 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg I was into the esoteric a decade ago, including the Tarot, and especially the Yi Ching. whose ability to transform and embed and interlink metaphors is very powerful. Being combinatorically constructed, it is a complete, homogeneous and interlinked (hyperlinked) semantic field (to a certain resolution). You can do things with it not even dreamed of in western semantics and language processing. Leibniz almost discovered these properties. I developed a theory of story ujsing it (in the form of the Feng Shui). See http://tap3x.net/EMBTI/j8clough.html Similarly I studied the time based version of the Yi Jing called the Tai Xuan Jing (T'ai Hsuan Ching) which is ternary in form and especially mysterious and beautiful. Then I went back tio the Lutheran Church and being conservative, and being advised and believing that such esoteric topics (unfortunately used in fortune telling, forbidden by the Bible) are not a healthy pursuit, I gave up all of that stuff. Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-15, 05:05:44 Subject: Reconciling Bruno's Primitives with Multisense Hi Bruno, I was thinking about your primitive of arithmetic truth (numbers, 0, +, and *, right?) and then your concept of 'the dreams of numbers', interviewing Lobian Machines, etc and came up with this. One single irreducible digit which represents a self-dividing continuum of infinite perpendicular dialectics between eidetic dream states (in which dream~numbers escape their numerical identities as immersive qualitative experiences) and entopic non-dream states (in which number~dreams escape their dream nature as literal algebra-geometries). This continuum f( ), runs from infinitely solipsistic/private first person subjectivity (calling that Aleph ) to infinitely discrete/public third person mechanism (calling that Omega ), so that at ,any given dream is experienced as 99.99...9% dream and 0.00...1% number and at , any given machine or number is presented as 99.99...9% number and 0.00...1% dream. The halfway point between the and axis is the perpendicular axis f(- ) which is the high and low correspondence between the literal dream and figurative number (or figurative dream and literal number depending on whether you are using the dream-facing epistemology or the number-facing epistemology). This axis runs from tight equivalence ("=") to broadly elliptical potential set membership ("...") So it looks something like this: f( ) { "..." "=" } To go further, it could be said that at (Omega), (Om) expresses as 10|O (one, zero, line segment, circle referring to the quantitative algebraic and geometric perpendicular primitives) while at (Aleph), (Om) expresses as (tetragrammaton or yod, hay, vov, hay, or in perhaps more familiar metaphor, (clubs, spades, hearts, diamonds) where: clubs (wands) =Fire, spiritual, tactile spades (swords) = Air, mental, auditory hearts (cups) =Water, emotional, visual diamonds (pentacles/coins) = Earth, physical, olfactory-gustatory Note that tactile and auditory modalities tune us into ourselves and each others sensemaking (selves and minds), while the visual and olfactory/gustatory sense modalities are about objectifying realism of the world (egos or objectified selves/self-images and bodies). It should be obvious that clubs (wands) and spades (swords) are stereotypically masculine and abstracting forces, while hearts (cups) and diamonds (pentacles/coins) are stereotypically feminine objectified fields. Sorry for the mumbo jumbo, but it is the only way to be non-reductive when approaching the qualitative side. We can't pretend to talk about the eidetic, dream like perpendicular of number logic while using the purely empirical terms of arithmetic reduction. We need symbols that can only refer to named qualities rather than enumerated quantities. Let the ignoring and insulting begin! Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/1BiqAleIH0kJ. To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. 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