Hi Richard,

    Ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_emergence

"Strong emergence is a type of emergence in which the emergent property is irreducible to its individual constituents."

OK, but "irreducibility" would have almost the same meaning as implying the non-existence of relations between the constituents and the emergent. It makes a mathematical description of the pair impossible... I don't think that I agree that it is derivable from Godel Incompleteness; I will be agnostic on this for now. Could you explain how it might?


On 8/23/2012 1:10 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
It is said that strong emergence comes from Godel incompleteness.
Weak emergence is like your grains of sand.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Stephen P. King <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Richard,

        Pratt's theory does not address this. Could emergence be the
    result of inter-communications between monads and not an objective
    process at all? It is useful to think about how to solve the
    Sorites paradox to see what I mean here. A heap is said to emerge
    from a collection of grains, but is there a number or discrete or
    smooth process that generates the heap? No! The heap is just an
    abstract category that we assign. It is a name.

    On 8/23/2012 9:44 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:

        Now if only someone could explain how emergence works.
        Can Pratt theory do that?



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Stephen

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