Hi Craig Weinberg 

While computers are causal, perception is not causal. 
Nothing that living things do is causal. They have an
uncaused first or governing cause called the self. 
Thus life does not have to be causal and isn't.

Monads operate in such a fashion. They are not 
causal except if that is desired or needed.

Huge difference. 


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/31/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function."
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On Friday, August 31, 2012 6:08:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:


On 31 Aug 2012, at 11:07, Roger Clough wrote:


Hi Bruno Marchal 

The burden of proof, IMHO lies on those who claim that
computers are alive and conscious. What evidence is there for that ?


The causal nature of all observable brains components. (empirical evidence)





What about the biological nature of all observable brain components? Much more 
compelling since it is a change in the biological status of the brain as a 
whole living organ which marks the difference between life and death, not the 
presence or absence of logic circuits.

Craig

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