Hi Stephen P. King I was wrong when I previously said that the problem with the Chinese Room argument is that it doesn't explain how to respond. That's a dumb comment, you just translate your thought-out response back into mandarin characters.
It may be that Searle chose chinese language and characters because although spoken chinese has some different meanings for certain sounds, the written characters are completely unambiguous. In case anybody would like to read an intelligent and entertaining book on mandarin, look up "dreaming in mandarin" by Deborah Fallows. There's a phrase before that phrase.Inside, it gives a 19 character short story in which each character sounds very similar (although still different) such as sih (hard to write the ping ying sounds in english). So the story goes sih sih sih sih.... etc. I can only speak a few phrases in mandarin but find it fascinating. I teach english to chinese immigrants (ESL) in my retirement. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/15/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-14, 11:47:13 Subject: Re: imaginary numbers in comp On 9/14/2012 6:14 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi John Clark Right. The problem with the Chinese Room argument is that there is no way to generate a reasonable answer. Hi Roger, The Chinese room argument is flawed becuase it does not consider the distinction of levels of meaningfulness. 9/14/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: John Clark Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-13, 15:58:20 Subject: Re: imaginary numbers in comp On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: > This is the symbol grounding problem pointed out by Searle's Chinese Room I've said it before I'll say it again,? Searle's Chinese Room is the single stupidest thought experiment ever devised by the mind of man. Of course even the best of us can have a brain fart from time to time, but Searle baked this turd pie decades ago and apparently he still thinks its quite clever, and thus I can only conclude that John Searle is as dumb as his room.? ? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- Onward! Stephen http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
