Hi Evgenii Rudnyi Following Leibniz and Kant, what we see in the case of the table is a "well-grounded phenomenon". That is, we do not see the table itself, but as it appears to our senses. But the table is not an illusion, it really is there, and we can place a pitchure of milk on it with no problem and knock on its surface.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/22/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Evgenii Rudnyi Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-22, 07:29:27 Subject: Re: Physics, Metaphysics, and Realism On 22.09.2012 11:48 Roger Clough said the following: > Hi Craig Weinberg > > I would classify your items as follows: > > MENTAL (outside of spacetime) : All experiences, dreams, delusions, > information, mathematics, logic, time, space, feelings, thoughts, > ideas, numbers, life itself, God, monads, mathematics, physical laws > themselves, theory of any type. > > PHYSICAL (within spacetime): Anything with dimensions, anything you > can measure with physical instruments (even indirectly), weigh or see > under a microscope or telescope, mass, energy, force, velocity, time, > distance, voltage, optical or sound intensity, wave amplitude, dna > type, cancer type, living tissue, dead tissue, flesh (brain). > Let us take a table, it seems to be a good example of a physical object with dimensions that we could measure. Yet, it is unclear to me what happens when I watch the table. Does I perceive it directly? Or alternatively does I observe just my perceptions of the table? In other worlds, do you assume direct or indirect realism? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_and_indirect_realism Evgenii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

