On Monday, September 24, 2012 5:13:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Sep 2012, at 20:11, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:28:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 23 Sep 2012, at 15:05, Roger Clough wrote: > > > > > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi > > > > > > > > > Phenomena are the how physical processes appear to our senses. > > > So they are appearances, not the processes themselves. > > > But scientific experiments and measurements are not > > > made on the appearances, they are made on the > > > processes. Thus the appearences areor [phenomena > > > are said to be "well-grounded" in the processes themselves. > > > > > > Kant spelled this out in great detail, calling "noumena" the > > > actual physical process which we cannot reach by our senses, > > > > > > And which does not exist, at least not in the sense that they cause > > our senses. > > This is the most counter-intuitive aspect of comp, as the physical > > process are projection on the conditions making the dream coherent. > > > > Why does comp want coherent dreams? > > Coherent dreams are reasonable data.
Why does comp want reasonable data? > Comp has to justify their > existence (easy, with comp), and their relative measure (hard). > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/N8X4rKc0vyYJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
