On Monday, September 24, 2012 5:13:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 23 Sep 2012, at 20:11, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
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> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:28:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
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> > On 23 Sep 2012, at 15:05, Roger Clough wrote: 
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> > > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi 
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> > > Phenomena are the how physical processes appear to our senses. 
> > > So they are appearances, not the processes themselves. 
> > > But scientific experiments and measurements are not 
> > > made on the appearances, they are made on the 
> > > processes. Thus the appearences areor [phenomena 
> > > are said to be "well-grounded"  in the processes themselves. 
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> > > Kant spelled this out in great detail,  calling "noumena" the 
> > > actual physical process which we cannot reach by our senses, 
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> > And which does not exist, at least not in the sense that they cause 
> > our senses. 
> > This is the most counter-intuitive aspect of comp, as the physical 
> > process are projection on the conditions making the dream coherent. 
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> > Why does comp want coherent dreams? 
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> Coherent dreams are reasonable data. 


Why does comp want reasonable data?
 

> Comp has to justify their   
> existence (easy, with comp),  and their relative measure (hard). 
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> Bruno 
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> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ 
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