# Re: Epiphenomenalism

```On 10/6/2012 10:40 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:
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On 10/6/2012 1:02 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Stephen P. King
<stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:

On 9/29/2012 10:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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```        Indeed. I think 17 is intrinsically a prime number in all
possible realities.
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It is not a reality in a world that only has 16 objects
in it. I can come up with several other counter-examples in
terms of finite field, but that is overly belaboring a point.

This can clearly be shown to be false.  For me to be responding
to this post (using a a secure connection to my mail server)
requires the use of prime numbers of 153 decimal digits in length.

There are on the order of 10^90 particles in the observable
universe.  This is far smaller than the prime numbers which are
larger than 10^152.  So would you say these numbers are not
prime, merely because we don't have 10^153 things we can point to?

If a number P can be prime in a universe with fewer than P
objects in it, might P be prime in a universe with 0 objects?

Jason
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LOL Jason,

Did you completely miss the point of "reality"? When is it
even possible to have a "universe with 0 objects"? Nice oxymoron!

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Say there is a universe that exists only an infinitely extended 3-manifold. Is this not a "universe with 0 objects"?
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In any case, did my example change your opinion regarding the primality of 17 in a universe with 16 objects?
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Jason
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Were did the "infinitely extended 3-manifold" come from? You are treating it as if it where an object!
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Onward!

Stephen

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