On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:

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> On 10/6/2012 1:02 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:
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>> On 9/29/2012 10:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> Indeed. I think 17 is intrinsically a prime number in all possible
>> realities.
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>> It is not a reality in a world that only has 16 objects in it. I can
>> come up with several other counter-examples in terms of finite field, but
>> that is overly belaboring a point.
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> This can clearly be shown to be false. For me to be responding to this
> post (using a a secure connection to my mail server) requires the use of
> prime numbers of 153 decimal digits in length.
>
> There are on the order of 10^90 particles in the observable universe.
> This is far smaller than the prime numbers which are larger than 10^152.
> So would you say these numbers are not prime, merely because we don't have
> 10^153 things we can point to?
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> If a number P can be prime in a universe with fewer than P objects in
> it, might P be prime in a universe with 0 objects?
>
> Jason
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> LOL Jason,
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> Did you completely miss the point of "reality"? When is it even
> possible to have a "universe with 0 objects"? Nice oxymoron!
>
Say there is a universe that exists only an infinitely extended 3-manifold.
Is this not a "universe with 0 objects"?
In any case, did my example change your opinion regarding the primality of
17 in a universe with 16 objects?
Jason
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