Enough On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: >> >> The why is that your conception of space is unscientific. >> You sound like a New Ager. > > > Why do you think that my conception of space is unscientific? Saying I sound > like a New Ager makes you sound unscientific. > >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> I disagree with everything you suggest. >> > >> > >> > You are welcome to disagree, but without knowing why, I can only assume >> > that >> > you don't really have an argument against my view. The bottom line is >> > that >> > without some theory which gets us from matter to *us right here* it >> > really >> > is more of in interesting curiosity. It may turn out to be incredibly >> > useful/important/profitable from an engineering and technology >> > standpoint, >> > but it really doesn't answer the timeless questions of who we are and >> > what >> > awareness is. My model does that. >> > >> > Craig >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:52:30 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Craig, >> >> >> Neurons are made in accordance with physical laws. >> >> >> >> >> >> You are confusing string theory with comp which apparently makes >> >> >> everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> String theory monads are made in the big bang by having the excess >> >> >> dimensions of the space of string theory curl up into 1000 planck >> >> >> diameter particles that precipitate out of 3-D space. In fact >> >> >> they're >> >> >> curling up is what allows 3-D space to inflate. As space is still >> >> >> expanding, monads are apparently still being made. >> >> >> >> >> >> The monads exist in what would be commonly called a supernatural >> >> >> realm. >> >> >> They solve the hard problems of consciousness. Neurons do not. That >> >> >> is >> >> >> why they are needed. But the fact is that according to string >> >> >> theory, >> >> >> they (the monads) exist. >> >> >> >> >> >> You can quibble with string theory if you like. In my models that >> >> >> extend string theory to consciousness, string theory is assumed to >> >> >> be >> >> >> correct, even if my modelling is incorrect. >> >> >> All I claim is that my model is one possibility among many that >> >> >> probably can never be proven. >> >> >> Richard >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > All that I suggest is that string theory and especially string monads >> >> > only >> >> > really address the hard problem if they are understood as figurative >> >> > strings >> >> > rather than literal structures. The dimensions would have to be >> >> > qualitative >> >> > experiential dimensions (like emotion, meaning, etc.) rather than >> >> > literally >> >> > 'different kinds of space'. >> >> > >> >> > In my view the whole notion of space as a plenum is a non-starter. >> >> > You >> >> > can >> >> > look at it that way and perhaps it will work eventually, but it is >> >> > the >> >> > loooong way around - like trying to guess what song is playing by >> >> > analyzing >> >> > a database of the expressions on the faces of people listening to >> >> > that >> >> > song. >> >> > >> >> > I say that space is a dimensionless void between phenomena which do >> >> > have >> >> > qualities that can be expressed as partly quantifiable with >> >> > dimension. >> >> > We >> >> > are in the big bang, as we always have been, only it is banging >> >> > within, >> >> > diffracting itself in many different ways, both figuratively and >> >> > literally >> >> > at the same time. >> >> > >> >> > Craig >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > "Everything List" group. >> >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/JrTIYscXvbwJ. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected]. >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/Q8vH2J5UkF0J. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/pnqsF8NLu_8J. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
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