On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > The why is that your conception of space is unscientific. > You sound like a New Ager. >
Why do you think that my conception of space is unscientific? Saying I sound like a New Ager makes you sound unscientific. > > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Craig Weinberg > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> I disagree with everything you suggest. > > > > > > You are welcome to disagree, but without knowing why, I can only assume > that > > you don't really have an argument against my view. The bottom line is > that > > without some theory which gets us from matter to *us right here* it > really > > is more of in interesting curiosity. It may turn out to be incredibly > > useful/important/profitable from an engineering and technology > standpoint, > > but it really doesn't answer the timeless questions of who we are and > what > > awareness is. My model does that. > > > > Craig > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:52:30 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Craig, > >> >> Neurons are made in accordance with physical laws. > >> >> > >> >> You are confusing string theory with comp which apparently makes > >> >> everything. > >> >> > >> >> String theory monads are made in the big bang by having the excess > >> >> dimensions of the space of string theory curl up into 1000 planck > >> >> diameter particles that precipitate out of 3-D space. In fact > they're > >> >> curling up is what allows 3-D space to inflate. As space is still > >> >> expanding, monads are apparently still being made. > >> >> > >> >> The monads exist in what would be commonly called a supernatural > realm. > >> >> They solve the hard problems of consciousness. Neurons do not. That > is > >> >> why they are needed. But the fact is that according to string > theory, > >> >> they (the monads) exist. > >> >> > >> >> You can quibble with string theory if you like. In my models that > >> >> extend string theory to consciousness, string theory is assumed to > be > >> >> correct, even if my modelling is incorrect. > >> >> All I claim is that my model is one possibility among many that > >> >> probably can never be proven. > >> >> Richard > >> > > >> > > >> > All that I suggest is that string theory and especially string monads > >> > only > >> > really address the hard problem if they are understood as figurative > >> > strings > >> > rather than literal structures. The dimensions would have to be > >> > qualitative > >> > experiential dimensions (like emotion, meaning, etc.) rather than > >> > literally > >> > 'different kinds of space'. > >> > > >> > In my view the whole notion of space as a plenum is a non-starter. > You > >> > can > >> > look at it that way and perhaps it will work eventually, but it is > the > >> > loooong way around - like trying to guess what song is playing by > >> > analyzing > >> > a database of the expressions on the faces of people listening to > that > >> > song. > >> > > >> > I say that space is a dimensionless void between phenomena which do > have > >> > qualities that can be expressed as partly quantifiable with > dimension. > >> > We > >> > are in the big bang, as we always have been, only it is banging > within, > >> > diffracting itself in many different ways, both figuratively and > >> > literally > >> > at the same time. > >> > > >> > Craig > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Everything List" group. > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/JrTIYscXvbwJ. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > [email protected]. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/Q8vH2J5UkF0J. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javascript:>. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/pnqsF8NLu_8J. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
