On Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:41:29 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > Brent, > According to Einstein it takes massive objects to warp spacetime. > Therefore a warped spacetime cannot be empty. >
Sure it can. What is mass? A relation between objects. Relativity shows us nothing if not that. Earth isn't orbiting a point in space, it is revolving around the sun, and will continue to do that regardless of where the sun goes. > > The apparently flat spacetime that exists > The idea of spacetime being flat is pure analogy. There is no flatness or warpedness to spacetime - only to the functions of objects in relation to each other. Flat and warped are metaphorical - statistical, like a 'flatline' on an EEG or income report. There is nothing there at all in reality. Space is that which subjects infer is not separates objects from being the same thing. It's like the spaces between these letters - there isn't anything there to warp, but if I stretch the letters with Photoshop in an orderly way, I have figuratively changed their spatial relation...because I have altered the pixels, not because space actually exists. > is due to dark energy, dark matter and visible matter. > Although flat, it is hardly considered to be empty. > Adding epicycles for 40 years... I feel certain that it is only a 'matter of time' before the whole Dr. Suess tower collapses into ashes and smoke. 'Dark' just means 'our equations only work if something were right here'. The Emperor's Dark Clothes, I say. Clearly. Obviously. I would bet my life on it. Craig > Richard > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/MwJ_5R0Mgt0J. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
