On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> Again the same main 1-3 confusion. > I see nothing I can be confused about because the only point of view I can see is my own first person one, what your second or his third person point of view may be is pure speculation on my part and so I will say nothing about it. > You can only say that [...] > You? John Clark has been duplicated so who "can only say that", me or that fellow to my right who looks just like me? You? John Clark has been duplicated so who "can only say that", me or that fellow to my left who looks just like me? > John Clark would be certain that *a* John Clark would die a painful > death, not that it will necessarily ever matter from your (the unique John > Clark before the experience) future point of view > A future experience NEVER matters to the unique person occupying the present because its in the future, but when the future becomes the present just before John Clark's last painful thought John Clark will remember being John Clark of the past. > Look at AUDA > According to Google "AUDA" is either a investment firm, a Bedouin Arab leader, or a Latvian football club playing in the second-highest division of Latvian football. I don't see the relevance in any of them. > Avoiding the use of pronouns there would conflate even more easily the > 1-3 key distinction. > I couldn't fail to disagree with you less. What you really mean by "conflate" is to shine a bright light on your ideas to expose their errors in stark relief. Pronouns are supposed to be used just for convenience, instead of laboriously typing "Bruno Marchal" the pronouns "you" or "he" can be used. But sometimes even in everyday experiences without the huge complication of duplicating chambers pronouns can lead to ambiguity. We've all had the experience of reading a very convoluted sentence and then seeing at the end "and so I disagree with it" and not being certain what "it" refers to and thus being unsure if the writer agrees with you or not. Now if we introduce duplicating chambers pronouns are a billion times more dangerous. To say that "you have been duplicated" and then to ask what "you" will see feel or want is just begging for ambiguity and confusion. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.