On 11/8/2012 6:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

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Time and space don't exist as substances so they don't influence the monads, which as you say are eternal. Further, there is no "substance space". So the monads are not organized in any way. The monads can be thought of as a collection of an infinite number of mathematical points. >From dust we come and to dust we shall return.

Hi Roger,

`The absolute disconnection of the monads is what makes them a`

`'dust'. This is exactly what is a Stone space - the dual to a Boolean`

`algebra. ;-) The idea is that any one monad has as its image of other`

`monads the vision of a mathematical point. This fits the idea of that`

`the classical universe is "atoms in a void" as taught by Democritus.`

`http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec1.html`

`What Craig and I are proposing is to add time to this idea. The`

`evolution of the dust from one configuration to another is the arrow of`

`time. Switching to the dual, we see teh evolution of Boolean algebras,`

`whose arrow is the entailment of one state by all previous states. These`

`two arrows face in opposite directions`

... A => A' Stone space | | ....A*<=A*' Boolean algebra The duals aspects of each monad evolve in opposite directions.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/8/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-07, 19:01:19 Subject: Re: Communicability On 11/7/2012 11:48 AM, Roger Clough wrote:Hi Stephen P. King That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the views of all of the other monads in order to see the whole, not from just one perspective.Hi Roger, Yes, and that is why I like the idea of a Monad. I just don't agree with Leibniz' theory of how they are organized. Leibniz demanded that their organization is imposed ab initio, he assumed that there is a special beginning of time. I see the monads as eternal, never created nor destroyed, and their mutual relationships are merely the co-occurence of their perspectives. This makes God's creativity to be an eternal action and not a special one time action.Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/7/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-06, 18:17:30 Subject: Re: Communicability On 11/6/2012 11:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote:What happens if I mistake a statue of a beautiful woman for the real thing, thus turning, eg, a statue of pygmalion into an actual woman ? Or mistake fool's gold or gold foiled chocolates for actual gold coins ? Does the world actually become cloudy if I have cataracts ?It is not just about you. It is about the huge number of observers. What matters is that they can communicate with each other and mutually confirm what is "real". Why do you imagine that only humans can be observers?

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