# Re: Leibniz: Reality as Dust

```On 11/8/2012 6:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
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`Hi Stephen P. King`
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Time and space don't exist as substances so
they don't influence the monads, which as you say
are eternal. Further, there is no "substance space".
So the monads are not organized in any way.
The monads can be thought of as a collection
of an infinite number of mathematical points.

>From dust we come and to dust we shall return.
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Hi Roger,

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The absolute disconnection of the monads is what makes them a 'dust'. This is exactly what is a Stone space - the dual to a Boolean algebra. ;-) The idea is that any one monad has as its image of other monads the vision of a mathematical point. This fits the idea of that the classical universe is "atoms in a void" as taught by Democritus. http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec1.html
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What Craig and I are proposing is to add time to this idea. The evolution of the dust from one configuration to another is the arrow of time. Switching to the dual, we see teh evolution of Boolean algebras, whose arrow is the entailment of one state by all previous states. These two arrows face in opposite directions
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... A => A'     Stone space
|       |
....A*<=A*'  Boolean algebra

The duals aspects of each monad evolve in opposite directions.
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Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/8/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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From: Stephen P. King
Time: 2012-11-07, 19:01:19
Subject: Re: Communicability

On 11/7/2012 11:48 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
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```Hi Stephen P. King

That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the
views of all of the other monads in order to see
the whole, not from just one perspective.

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```Hi Roger,

Yes, and that is why I like the idea of a Monad. I just don't agree
with Leibniz' theory of how they are organized. Leibniz demanded that
their organization is imposed ab initio, he assumed that there is a
special beginning of time. I see the monads as eternal, never created
nor destroyed, and their mutual relationships are merely the
co-occurence of their perspectives. This makes God's creativity to be an
eternal action and not a special one time action.

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```Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/7/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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From: Stephen P. King
Time: 2012-11-06, 18:17:30
Subject: Re: Communicability

On 11/6/2012 11:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
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```What happens if I mistake a statue of a beautiful woman
for the real thing, thus turning, eg, a statue of pygmalion into an
actual woman ?

Or mistake fool's gold or gold foiled chocolates
for actual gold coins ?

Does the world actually become cloudy if I have cataracts ?

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```It is not just about you. It is about the huge number of observers. What
matters is that they can communicate with each other and mutually
confirm what is "real". Why do you imagine that only humans can be
observers?

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Onward!

Stephen

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