On 12/15/2012 9:50 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Brent Meeker appreciates John Clark's concern with pronouns.
John Clark is happy to read that but is somewhat skeptical it is true.
> I think it needs to put in the context of QM, which is what Bruno is
proposing to
explain. Suppose Bruno is Helsinki and he steps in a transporter and it
sends him
to Washington.
As John Clark has said people just can not help themselves, in order to express vague
flabby philosophical ideas personal pronouns simply must be used to hide their vacuous
nature at their heart. John Clark is going to rephrase the above by excising the
cancerous pronouns "suppose Bruno is in Helsinki and Bruno steps into a transporter and
it sends Bruno to Washington". Already much of the mystery is gone and things are much
clearer, but there is still ambiguity about the nature of the transporter. If the
transporter is a airplane then when Bruno goes to Washington Bruno is no longer in
Helsinki, however if the transporter is a duplicating machine then when Bruno goes to
Washington Bruno remains in Helsinki.
> That Bruno, Bruno_w goes back to Helsinki, gets in the transporter again
and it
sends him to Moscow. That Bruno_wm goes back to Helsinki and repeats this
process
many times. Eventually Bruno_wmwwmwmmmww...mwm concludes that the
transporter seems
to be random and just sends him to Washington or Moscow at random with
probability 1/2.
Brent Meeker just said that the machine would send Bruno to Washington AND Moscow many
times,
Once for each start from Helsinki.
and then in the very next sentence Brent Meeker says that the machine would send Bruno
to Washington OR Moscow;
I wrote, "Bruno_wmwwmwmmmww...mwm concludes that the transporter seems to be random and
just sends him to Washington or Moscow."
and if Bruno had seen wmwwmwmmmww...mwm then Bruno has certainly seen Washington AND
Moscow. Of course this absurdity
What's absurd about visiting Washington and Moscow many times, always starting from
Helsinki. I'll bet there are several Finnish airline pilots who have done exactly that.
I think you must be listening to voices in your head, instead reading what's written.
can be covered up, and that's where personal pronouns come in, although John Clark
thinks the disguise doesn't work very well, lipstick can't brink a corpse back to life
and personal pronouns can't give focus to bad ideas.
And John Clark is confused about what direction Brent Meeker believes one should look to
understand this issue, from the present to the past or from the present to the future.
John Clark believes that the important thing is that no matter how many iterations are
done all those Bruno's remember being Bruno in Helsinki long before Bruno had even seen
a duplicating chamber, and that's why all of them, although different from each other,
are all equally Bruno.
Did I say there was a duplicating chamber??
Brent
John K Clark
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