On 1/6/2013 3:45 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:49 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The word "must" implies forcible persuasion.
Hi,
But the use of force to persuade is not the essence of fascism. Fascism
is a
governing system where the population can own property privately but the
use of
said property is dictated by the State. Most countries are fascistic.
Only because you've taken a single attribute of Fascism and taken it to be a
definition. Fascism is the idea that a nation is a kind of super-being in
which
labor, industry, and government are *bound together into one* (hence the
name) and
the life of citizens takes meaning from how they serve their function as an
element
of The State. This was further taken to imply that superior, i.e. Fascist,
nations
should bring this superior culture to other inferior, i.e. non-Fascist,
nations by
armed conquest.
Brent
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the
merger of state and corporate power."
--- Benito Mussolini.
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Thank you, Brent, for this. ;-) I was trying to highlight the behavior
of
fascism in ways that do not invoke extraneous discussion. All that you
added, while
true, is irrelevant to my definition as it is representative of just one
form of
fascism, that of Mussolini's Italy.
Negative, from German perspective: Nazi as adherent to NSDAP (German:
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) so "national socialist german worker's
party" wrote in their constitution that "corporations potentially pose a threat to the
state and have to thus be merged with state force to facilitate common good". This was
done not only to build and develop weapons, but to build the A1 freeway, on which yours
truly traveled south today.
Don't know how Japan handled it, but imagine that it would've run along similar lines.
High efficiency, high productivity, lowers unemployment, automatically restrains budding
monopolies... all the kind of things the west proclaims to want today; even though
history should at some point teach us what this means, we don't seem to get it or don't
want to.
Nazism was not Fascism. It borrowed from Fascism but it added mystic racism, Hitler cult,
and genocide.
Brent
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