On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 7:49 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 1/17/2013 4:02 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> I'm agnostic about the environmental apocalipse. Producing useful
> scientific theories about complex systems is already a daunting task. When
> the issue is so heavily politicised by both sides, it becomes almost
> impossible. Anyone that has ever done experimental research knows how easy
> it is to lie with statistics and graphs. One would have to study climate
> science for years just to get to the point of being able to have an
> informed opinion. The thing is so ideological now that you can't trust
> anyone to tell you the truth.
>  Is big industry funding a misinformation campaign to protect their
> profits? Sounds plausible.
>  Are bureaucratic anti-capitalist "scientists" distorting the facts to
> protect their careers? Sounds plausible.
> Sounds completely implausible to me.  What scientist is
> "anti-capitalist"?  How would it protect the careers of people like Jim
> Hansen, Michael Mann, Gavin Schmidt,... to distort data?  Hansen was forced
> to quit his NASA job and go to academia in order to speak freely


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