On 3/1/2013 7:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Feb 2013, at 20:29, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:59 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:33 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com
<mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> It is a basic law of logic that if X is not Y and X is not not Y
then X is
gibberish,
> X = alcohol Y = poison.
becomes "alcohol is not poison and alcohol isn't not poison"
Exactly, and 2 negatives, like "isn't not" cancel each other out so you get "alcohol
is not a poison and alcohol is a poison" which is gibberish just like I said.
Alcohol both is and isn't a poison, duh! It is the quantity that makes the
difference. Are you too coarse to notice that there are distinctions in the real world
that are not subject to the naive representation of Aristotelian syllogisms.
> If there were no free will then nobody could choose to assert anything,
abandon
anything, or speak anything other than gibberish.
Cannot comment, don't know what ASCII symbols "free will" mean.
And we can safely assume that all text that is emitted from the email
johnkcl...@gmail.com is only accidentally meaningful, aka gibberish as well, as it's
referents where not chosen by a conscious act.
I think we're safe in assuming that they are emitted by a process that is either random
or deterministic.
It could also be partially random and partially deterministic.
Sure. It's hard to even define what might be meant by "completely" random. Things are
only random in the sense of not being strictly deterministic.
Brent
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