On 20 Apr 2013, at 23:05, meekerdb wrote:
On 4/20/2013 12:16 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then a majority of atheist believes in Matter. That has been
introduced as an hypothesis by Aristotle (although he appears to be
unclear in some passage),
I don't know why you keep attributing the belief in matter to
Aristotle? First, belief in matter was commonplace.
I used "Matter" with a big "M", and I was alluding to Aristotle
metaphysical assumption that such a thing exists in the ontological
Second, Aristotle was more a dualist who believed in a teleological
spirit animating things: Stones "wanted" to sink. Air "wanted" to
rise. Third, Aristotle opposed the atomism of Democritus which is
more nearly the metaphysical ancestor of modern science.
I agree. Of course we know (or should know) that if we are Turing
emulable, atomism does not make sense, like we have a confirmation
with modern physics (which introduced waves and fields, and keep
reducing "atoms" into more elementary things).
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