Telmo: did you research WHERE would you migrate FREELY to find all those
I did for awhile before I had a chance to DO it and got nowhere. The
"global rottenness" abounds.
John M

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Telmo Menezes <>wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM, John Mikes <> wrote:
> > And what good does it do to   H A V E  nations? Starting wars? Looking
> down
> > on every other nation? Exploiting strangers/foreigners?
> > Nationalism is a pest in the human world.
> > You are right saying that it is - sort of - a religious aberration,
> closely
> > connected with religion itself. So the proposition may be true.
> > Could anyone LIST the benefits of 'national' existence/feeling?

> (Forget about the secondaries: mother tongue, folk-music, lit, etc.)
> > JM
> Well said John!
> Just like religions, nations are an artefact from an era when there
> wasn't anything better to scaffold civilisation. They are becoming
> especially ridiculous in the Internet age.
> I would tolerate them better if you could migrate freely and chose the
> one you like the most (in terms of laws, for example). Then they would
> have to compete for citizens, and politicians would have a harder time
> getting away with the sort of shenanigans they do nowadays --
> criminalisation of victimless behaviours, legislation on the private
> sphere, unreasonable wars, humiliation in name of safety and so on.
> The concept of "others" is very important to enslave the masses.
> Telmo.

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