On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 07 May 2013, at 20:55, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > there is no random decay or anything else > > > There is no way you can deduce that from pure reason and the experimental > evidence strongly indicates that you are wrong about that. > >> > only things that happen without our - so far - accessed explanation. > > > And thanks to experiments involving Bell's inequality we know for a fact > that if apparently random things happen for a reason they can't be local > reasons; for example the reason the coin came up heads right now is because > a billion years in the FUTURE a butterfly like creature on a planet in the > Andromeda Galaxy flapped it's wings twice instead of 3 times. > >
Hi Bruno, > You assume the collapse of the wave. There are experimental evidences > against it, Could you elaborate? > and there are no experimental evidence of any randomness other > than some FPI, on the branch of a universal wave, or, as we need with comp, > on arithmetic. > To believe in events without cause or reason is ... pseudo-religion. It is a > belief in something without any evidences, to introduce unsolvable problem > on purpose. This is a strong argument in favor of theories like comp, or at least some form of many-worlds. "True randomness" strikes me as an euphemism for magic. Telmo. > Bruno > > > > > > > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
