On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
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> On 07 May 2013, at 20:55, John Clark wrote:
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> On Mon, May 6, 2013  John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > there is no random decay or anything else
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> There is no way you can deduce that from pure reason and the experimental
> evidence strongly indicates that  you are wrong about that.
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>> > only things that happen without our - so far - accessed explanation.
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> And thanks to experiments involving Bell's inequality we know for a fact
> that if apparently random things happen for a reason they can't be local
> reasons; for example the reason the coin came up heads right now is because
> a billion years in the FUTURE a butterfly like creature on a planet in the
> Andromeda Galaxy flapped it's wings twice instead of 3 times.
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Hi Bruno,

> You assume the collapse of the wave. There are experimental evidences
> against it,

Could you elaborate?

> and there are no experimental evidence of any randomness other
> than some FPI, on the branch of a universal wave, or, as we need with comp,
> on arithmetic.
> To believe in events without cause or reason is ... pseudo-religion. It is a
> belief in something without any evidences, to introduce unsolvable problem
> on purpose.

This is a strong argument in favor of theories like comp, or at least
some form of many-worlds. "True randomness" strikes me as an euphemism
for magic.

Telmo.

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