I (John M) feel in some remarks my text has been mixed with words of John
Clark's. I never referred to that 'butterfly' hoax. I have second thoughts
whenever someone comes up with (Q?-)physical marvels showing 'internal'
randomness: the marvels are well fictionized to show such.
Even thinking in proper(?) conventional science terms: RANDOM occurrences
would eliminate the possibility of sci. prediction and proper conclusions.
Agnostic, or not.
To John (Clark)'s PRIVATE(?) question: I stuck my nose into astrology 60+
years ago, for a short while. Numerology was always one of my favorite
sources of laughter.
My agnosticism is leaning on my successful 38 patents in conventional
polymer technology. I developed questions.
I did not inform you about these facts to trigger more of your time for my
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> John Clark:
> the reason I 'post' is to get argumentation BEYOND the general negative
> you submit. Experimental evidence is a fairy-tale based on assumptions upon
> presumptions believed to be 'true'. Like: the 'physical world' in
> conventional science.
> I would love to learn from you (and others) if your post is reasonable and
> meaningful. No 'feelings', please.
> Bell's inequality is within the EPR assumption (pardon me: thought
> experiment). The consequences are well thought of. Math-phys predictions
> and conclusions ditto. Conventional science is a useful practicality
> (almost true, that almost works well with some mishaps and some later
> After 1/2 century successfully working within it I arrived at my agnostic
> stance. Believe it, or not, we still hve novelties to get by and they may
> change our as-(pre-)sumptions.
> John Mikes
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > there is no random decay or anything else
>> There is no way you can deduce that from pure reason and the experimental
>> evidence strongly indicates that you are wrong about that.
>> > only things that happen without our - so far - accessed explanation.
>> And thanks to experiments involving Bell's inequality we know for a fact
>> that if apparently random things happen for a reason they can't be local
>> reasons; for example the reason the coin came up heads right now is because
>> a billion years in the FUTURE a butterfly like creature on a planet in the
>> Andromeda Galaxy flapped it's wings twice instead of 3 times.
>> John K Clark
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