If you don't look at the evidence, then you won't know one way or the other. You would rather believe that phenomena such as human character and personality can only be a random consequence of unrelated mechanisms. Real astrology and numerology studies patterns derived from names and numbers and claims that there is some very specific and understandable coherence there. I tend to agree, though not in a causal way. You violently disagree, yet without any understanding of what you are disagreeing with, except for a caricature of astrology as fortune telling in idiotic magazines and newspaper columns. You think that you are a champion for science and reason, but actually you give them a bad name, polluting them beyond recognition with ignorance and intolerance. Your attitude is the same attitude of fundamentalism and the attitude which causes people to reject science and turn to fundamentalism. Craig > > John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.