Wrong Bruno, Flying pink elephants could be 'off mass shell', virtual
elephants. Their color is a superposition of pink and not pink, which makes
them, on average, colorless unless we look *very* carefully.

Your test for 'reality' is unphysical because it assumes that *infinite
computations that consume no resources* can be accessed for confirmation of
&p. The argument is simple: a proof of a sentence is equivalent to a
computation of the model of the sentence. If the sentence is inconsistent,
then the model cannot be generated.

The *Reality* of p is the by-product of mutual agreement of all possible
testers/provers/interviewers of p, not some transcendent *Being*. There
there is a flaw in the premise of Arithmetic realism. Thus I present
'fictionalism' as a way to illustrate my counterexample to your claim of
'absolute truth' for Bp&p..


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

>
> On 08 Jun 2013, at 05:15, meekerdb wrote:
>
>  On 6/7/2013 4:00 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> Yes, if there was a text of this it would be nice... I found this:
> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/
>
>
> A fictionalist account holds that some things are fictional, i.e. don't
> exist even though their complete description is self-consistent.
> Everythingists apparently reject this idea.  Platonists seem to equate
> 'true' with 'exists'.  If you believe 17 is prime you must believe 17
> exists.  I think this is wrong.  If you believe that a flying pink
> elephant is pink, must you believe a flying pink elephant exists?
>
>
>
> Flying pink elephants are pink and not pink. That's why flying pink
> elephant can't exist.
>
> Bruno
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