Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
> >> So if the slave AI has a fixed goal structure with the number one goal >> being to always do what humans tell it to do and the humans order it to >> determine the truth or falsehood of something unprovable then its infinite >> loop time and you've got yourself a space heater not a AI. >> >> > > Right, but I'm not thinking of something that straightforward. We > Already have that -- normal processors. Any one of them will do precisely > what we order it to do. > Yes, and because the microprocessors in our computers do precisely what we order them to do and not what we want them to do they sometimes go into infinite loops, and because they never get bored they will stay in that loop forever, or at least until we reboot our computer; if we're just using the computer to surf the internet that's only a minor inconvenience but if the computer were running a nuclear power plant or the New York Stock Exchange it would be somewhat more serious; and if your friendly AI were running the entire world the necessity of a reboot would be even more unpleasant. > >> Real minds avoid this infinite loop problem because real minds don't >> have fixed goals, real minds >> get bored and give up. >> > > > At that level, boredom would be a very simple mechanism, easily replaced > by something like: try this for x amount of time and then move on to > another goal > But how long should x be? Perhaps in just one more second you'll get the answer, or maybe two, or maybe 10 billion years, or maybe never. I think determining where to place the boredom point for a given type of problem may be the most difficult part in making an AI; Turing tells us we'll never find a algorithm that works perfectly on all problems all of the time, so we'll just have to settle for an algorithm that works pretty well on most problems most of the time. And you're opening up a huge security hole, in fact they just don't get any bigger, you're telling the AI that if this whole "always obey humans no matter what" thing isn't going anywhere just ignore it and move on to something else. It's hard enough to protect a computer when the hacker is no smarter than you are, but now you're trying to outsmart a computer that's thousands of times smarter than yourself. It can't be done. Incidentally I've speculated that unusual ways to place the boredom point may explain the link between genius and madness particularly among mathematicians. Great mathematicians can focus on a problem with ferocious intensity, for years if necessary, and find solutions that you or I could not, but in everyday life that same attribute of mind can sometimes cause them to behave in ways that seem to be at bit, ah, odd. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
