Brent I agree, it seems to be an ever moving goal post. Already so much is being done by expert systems that up until a few years ago was the exclusive domain of humans -- for example automated arbitrage trading systems that are responsible for an ever growing slice of all the trades on the major stock and commodities exchanges in the world because not only are they so much faster than humans, but often are making better trades on average than human traders. Part of the reason for this goal post moving that seems to be going on is due to how hard it is to really provide any kind of rigorous definition of what is the meaning of intelligence, self awareness etc.and so it is quite easy -- in the fog of semantic confusion -- to post facto claim that whatever had been previously proposed as a clear sign of AI is not really indicative of true AI. Chris
________________________________ From: meekerdb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:49 PM Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test? On 8/23/2013 11:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: I AI the response is ever "The next decade" That's because as soon as a computer does what was formerly claimed to be possible only for human intellect, e.g. beat a world chess champion, prove a new theorem in mathematics, drive a car in traffic,... that thing is immediately demoted to "not real intelligence". So AI is always what hasn't been done yet. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

